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Discussion in 'TomTom' started by SuperDragão, Nov 24, 2011.

  1. SuperDragão

    SuperDragão Guest

    What's up w/TTom?
    Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a highway then comes map 880 and
    these are missing
    Incredible
     
    SuperDragão, Nov 24, 2011
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  2. SuperDragão

    MM Guest

    On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:13:39 -0500, SuperDragão <> wrote:

    >What's up w/TTom?
    >Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a highway then comes map 880 and
    >these are missing
    >Incredible


    I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    that were completed six months ago following traffic calming
    measures.

    Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    recommendation will be: stay away.

    MM
     
    MM, Nov 24, 2011
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  3. SuperDragão

    Rod Speed Guest

    MM wrote
    > SuperDragão <> wrote


    >> What's up w/TTom?
    >> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing
    >> Incredible


    > I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    > know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    > that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.


    > Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    > recommendation will be: stay away.


    You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 24, 2011
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  4. SuperDragão

    SuperDragão Guest

    Rod

    Last year TTom NA map were missing some important streets in my town that
    were in the previous versions same w/my latest complain.
    What are they doing when they put these maps together?
    Take the previous version add the new material and you have a new version
    but NO TTom goes backward instead.
    Disappointed and venting

    "Rod Speed" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > MM wrote
    >> SuperDragão <> wrote

    >
    >>> What's up w/TTom?
    >>> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >>> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing
    >>> Incredible

    >
    >> I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    >> know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    >> that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.

    >
    >> Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    >> recommendation will be: stay away.

    >
    > You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    > and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    > sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.
    >
    >
    >
     
    SuperDragão, Nov 24, 2011
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  5. SuperDragão

    Brian Watson Guest

    "Rod Speed" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > MM wrote
    >> SuperDragão <> wrote

    >
    >>> What's up w/TTom?
    >>> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >>> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing
    >>> Incredible

    >
    >> I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    >> know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    >> that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.

    >
    >> Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    >> recommendation will be: stay away.

    >
    > You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    > and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    > sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.


    I know someone who works for Garmin and he actually goes out for them
    checking data.

    Not saying it gets updated any quicker, just saying that at least they do
    SOME of their own research.

    --
    Brian
    "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
    www.imagebus.co.uk/shop
     
    Brian Watson, Nov 24, 2011
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  6. SuperDragão

    SuperDragão Guest

    Ok that is fine
    But in this case they are making a new map look worse
    If you have a car company, let's say Hyundai takes a model and takes away
    the AC and Cruise Control it is making that car worse not better.
    It is my feeling w/TTom w/the 880 compared to the 875
    Let me say I have had my TTom One for 5 years
    "Brian Watson" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Rod Speed" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> MM wrote
    >>> SuperDragão <> wrote

    >>
    >>>> What's up w/TTom?
    >>>> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >>>> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing
    >>>> Incredible

    >>
    >>> I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    >>> know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    >>> that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.

    >>
    >>> Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    >>> recommendation will be: stay away.

    >>
    >> You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    >> and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    >> sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.

    >
    > I know someone who works for Garmin and he actually goes out for them
    > checking data.
    >
    > Not saying it gets updated any quicker, just saying that at least they do
    > SOME of their own research.
    >
    > --
    > Brian
    > "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
    > www.imagebus.co.uk/shop
    >
     
    SuperDragão, Nov 24, 2011
    #6
  7. SuperDragão

    MM Guest

    On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:10:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <> wrote:

    >MM wrote
    >> SuperDragão <> wrote

    >
    >>> What's up w/TTom?
    >>> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >>> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing
    >>> Incredible

    >
    >> I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    >> know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    >> that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.

    >
    >> Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    >> recommendation will be: stay away.

    >
    >You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    >and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    >sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.


    If all sat-navs are as bad as one another, then they are not fit for
    purpose, at least in terms of speed advice. Take these local speed
    limit revisions (from 40 to 30 mph): I know the road well, but a
    stranger to the area could easily be mistaken into believing what the
    device says, i.e. *40* mph. So if one has to watch out as much as
    before acquiring the sat-nav for speed limits, cameras, average speed
    limits, traffic light cams and so on, what is the point of buying a
    sat-nav? Well, only for planning a route instead of using a map, I
    suppose.

    I could understand if the traffic calming on the road in question had
    only been completed in, say, September, but it was actually completed
    around the beginning of May. When I make my planned trip next week, I
    shall be in the same boat as a stranger in my area. Should I or should
    I not trust the sat-nav to warn/remind me with accuracy in parts of
    the country I do not know at all?

    Here's one way of getting blitzed: If you visit the Jet petrol station
    in the traffic calmed area, fill up, pay, then pull away, within 1/4
    mile there's a speed camera which the TomTom thinks is still set to 40
    mph. But as you pull away from the forecourt and on to the road, then
    proceed towards the camera, you won't see any speed restriction sign!
    However, because the device says 40 mph, you merrily go on your way,
    past the camera and wham! You've been blitzed.

    MM
     
    MM, Nov 24, 2011
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  8. On 11/24/2011, MM posted:
    > On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:10:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    > <> wrote:


    >> MM wrote
    >>> SuperDragão <> wrote

    >>
    >>>> What's up w/TTom?
    >>>> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >>>> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing
    >>>> Incredible

    >>
    >>> I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    >>> know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    >>> that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.
    >>> Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    >>> recommendation will be: stay away.

    >>
    >> You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    >> and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    >> sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.


    > If all sat-navs are as bad as one another, then they are not fit for
    > purpose, at least in terms of speed advice. Take these local speed
    > limit revisions (from 40 to 30 mph): I know the road well, but a
    > stranger to the area could easily be mistaken into believing what the
    > device says, i.e. *40* mph. So if one has to watch out as much as
    > before acquiring the sat-nav for speed limits, cameras, average speed
    > limits, traffic light cams and so on, what is the point of buying a
    > sat-nav? Well, only for planning a route instead of using a map, I
    > suppose.


    > I could understand if the traffic calming on the road in question had
    > only been completed in, say, September, but it was actually completed
    > around the beginning of May. When I make my planned trip next week, I
    > shall be in the same boat as a stranger in my area. Should I or should
    > I not trust the sat-nav to warn/remind me with accuracy in parts of
    > the country I do not know at all?


    > Here's one way of getting blitzed: If you visit the Jet petrol station
    > in the traffic calmed area, fill up, pay, then pull away, within 1/4
    > mile there's a speed camera which the TomTom thinks is still set to 40
    > mph. But as you pull away from the forecourt and on to the road, then
    > proceed towards the camera, you won't see any speed restriction sign!
    > However, because the device says 40 mph, you merrily go on your way,
    > past the camera and wham! You've been blitzed.


    > MM


    Tell ya what, do what I do.

    Pay attention to the signs on the road and watch your speedometer.

    I find that my Garmin is occasionally not up to date, but I also note
    that when it is, the speed limit on the display changes within a very
    few feet of the sign by the road. Impressive.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 24, 2011
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  9. SuperDragão

    Stuart Guest

    In article <>,
    MM <> wrote:
    > If all sat-navs are as bad as one another, then they are not fit for
    > purpose, at least in terms of speed advice.


    I'm afraid sat-navs were never intended to replace the human brain and
    proper observation and concentration on driving.

    > then proceed towards the camera, you won't see any speed restriction
    > sign! However, because the device says 40 mph, you merrily go on your
    > way, past the camera and wham! You've been blitzed.


    If you're in a 30 limit when you pull into the petrol station, its up to
    you to remember that fact and when in doubt always assume a 30 limit.

    Apart from anything else, temporary speed limits, which may only last a few
    days are common-place.

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Only plain text for emails
    http://www.asciiribbon.org
     
    Stuart, Nov 24, 2011
    #9
  10. SuperDragão

    MM Guest

    On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:07:50 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
    <> wrote:

    >Tell ya what, do what I do.
    >
    >Pay attention to the signs on the road and watch your speedometer.


    Ah, so you don't believe a word the sat-nav says, either! Maybe I'll
    put a book of road maps in the car, too. £3.99 for the 2012 edition,
    but what the heck? The sat-nav was "only" £107.

    >I find that my Garmin is occasionally not up to date, but I also note
    >that when it is, the speed limit on the display changes within a very
    >few feet of the sign by the road. Impressive.


    Oh, so does the TomTom -- *when* it knows what the correct speed
    limit is!

    The TomTom merrily dings away as I approach the speed cam, but it's
    rather disconcerting to see the 40 mph roundel on the sat-nav's screen
    when you know you're actually in a 30 mph zone and you've paid £107
    for erroneous information.

    MM
     
    MM, Nov 25, 2011
    #10
  11. SuperDragão

    MM Guest

    On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:32:05 +0000 (GMT), Stuart
    <> wrote:

    >In article <>,
    > MM <> wrote:
    >> If all sat-navs are as bad as one another, then they are not fit for
    >> purpose, at least in terms of speed advice.

    >
    >I'm afraid sat-navs were never intended to replace the human brain and
    >proper observation and concentration on driving.


    You think the manufacturers could not bust a gut and get speed limit
    revisions incorporated within six months? Another comment I read
    placed the time lag of updates reflecting accuracy of data at 1 year!
    Which kinda makes the things seem like those VTech gizmos they
    advertise for kids in the run-up to Christmas.

    >> then proceed towards the camera, you won't see any speed restriction
    >> sign! However, because the device says 40 mph, you merrily go on your
    >> way, past the camera and wham! You've been blitzed.

    >
    >If you're in a 30 limit when you pull into the petrol station, its up to
    >you to remember that fact and when in doubt always assume a 30 limit.


    So, the sat-nav is just taking up unnecessary space and helping to
    creating a blind spot. Good one!

    >Apart from anything else, temporary speed limits, which may only last a few
    >days are common-place.


    These are not temporary speed limits I'm referring to. The works
    started in March and were completed by the end of April. New traffic
    calming measures have been implemented over a two mile stretch, with
    further speed limit revisions before and after the village from NSL
    down to 50 mph over a six mile stretch -- all of which the TomTom is
    supremely oblivious to.

    MM
     
    MM, Nov 25, 2011
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  12. SuperDragão

    Rod Speed Guest

    SuperDragão wrote:

    > Last year TTom NA map were missing some important streets in my town that were in the previous versions same w/my
    > latest complain.
    > What are they doing when they put these maps together?
    > Take the previous version add the new material and you have a new
    > version but NO TTom goes backward instead.
    > Disappointed and venting


    What matter is whether any of the others do any better
    on that and dont have other serious downsides.

    That may also vary by country too, I havent seen that effect with mine.


    > Rod Speed <> wrote
    >> MM wrote
    >>> SuperDragão <> wrote


    >>>> What's up w/TTom?
    >>>> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >>>> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing Incredible


    >>> I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    >>> know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    >>> that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.


    >>> Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    >>> recommendation will be: stay away.


    >> You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    >> and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    >> sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 25, 2011
    #12
  13. SuperDragão

    Rod Speed Guest

    Brian Watson wrote
    > Rod Speed <> wrote
    >> MM wrote
    >>> SuperDragão <> wrote


    >>>> What's up w/TTom?
    >>>> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >>>> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing
    >>>> Incredible


    >>> I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    >>> know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    >>> that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.


    >>> Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    >>> recommendation will be: stay away.


    >> You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    >> and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    >> sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.


    > I know someone who works for Garmin and he actually goes out for them checking data.


    > Not saying it gets updated any quicker, just saying that at least
    > they do SOME of their own research.


    But you dont know what TomTom does in that regard.

    TomTom does have user updateable maps in the later higher capability satnavs.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 25, 2011
    #13
  14. SuperDragão

    Rod Speed Guest

    SuperDragão wrote:

    > Ok that is fine
    > But in this case they are making a new map look worse


    Yes, but you dont know that the other satnavs dont do that too.

    > If you have a car company, let's say Hyundai takes a model and takes
    > away the AC and Cruise Control it is making that car worse not better.


    Thats nothing like the situation with a satnav map.

    > It is my feeling w/TTom w/the 880 compared to the 875
    > Let me say I have had my TTom One for 5 years


    I've had my 710 for rather longer than that.

    > Brian Watson <> wrote
    >> Rod Speed <> wrote
    >>> MM wrote
    >>>> SuperDragão <> wrote


    >>>>> What's up w/TTom?
    >>>>> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >>>>> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing
    >>>>> Incredible


    >>>> I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    >>>> know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    >>>> that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.


    >>>> Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    >>>> recommendation will be: stay away.


    >>> You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    >>> and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    >>> sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.


    >> I know someone who works for Garmin and he actually goes out for them checking data.


    >> Not saying it gets updated any quicker, just saying that at least
    >> they do SOME of their own research.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 25, 2011
    #14
  15. SuperDragão

    Rod Speed Guest

    MM wrote
    > Rod Speed <> wrote
    >> MM wrote
    >>> SuperDragão <> wrote


    >>>> What's up w/TTom?
    >>>> Map 875 shows the name of some streets and a
    >>>> highway then comes map 880 and these are missing
    >>>> Incredible


    >>> I downloaded map version 880.3808 two days ago and it still doesn't
    >>> know about speed camera changes and speed limit reductions locally
    >>> that were completed six months ago following traffic calming measures.


    >>> Basically, if anyone asks me about buying a TomTom in future, my
    >>> recommendation will be: stay away.


    >> You have to know of a different satnav that updates the maps quicker
    >> and doesnt have other important downsides before you can say that
    >> sensibly, particularly when so many use the same source of map data.


    > If all sat-navs are as bad as one another, then they are
    > not fit for purpose, at least in terms of speed advice.


    And legally you are entitled to a full refund in some jurisdictions like mine.

    > Take these local speed limit revisions (from 40 to 30 mph):
    > I know the road well, but a stranger to the area could easily
    > be mistaken into believing what the device says, i.e. *40* mph.
    > So if one has to watch out as much as before acquiring the
    > sat-nav for speed limits, cameras, average speed limits,
    > traffic light cams and so on, what is the point of buying a sat-nav?


    The point is that its right much more often than its not and trivial to check.

    Are you one of those that will just drive straight into the river/chasm
    if the satnav tells you to do that ? If you are, you shouldnt have one.

    > Well, only for planning a route instead of using a map, I suppose.


    Or just check that there arent any obvious discrepencys.

    > I could understand if the traffic calming on the road in question had
    > only been completed in, say, September, but it was actually completed
    > around the beginning of May. When I make my planned trip next week,
    > I shall be in the same boat as a stranger in my area. Should I or should
    > I not trust the sat-nav to warn/remind me with accuracy in parts of
    > the country I do not know at all?


    Anyone with even half a clue compares what the satnav says with
    what the street signs say and uses the street signs when they differ.

    Satnavs will ALWAYS be behind the street signs and there is nothing you can do about that.

    > Here's one way of getting blitzed: If you visit the Jet petrol station
    > in the traffic calmed area, fill up, pay, then pull away, within 1/4
    > mile there's a speed camera which the TomTom thinks is still set to 40
    > mph. But as you pull away from the forecourt and on to the road, then
    > proceed towards the camera, you won't see any speed restriction sign!
    > However, because the device says 40 mph, you merrily go on your way,
    > past the camera and wham! You've been blitzed.


    You could get real radical and look at the street sign.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 25, 2011
    #15
  16. SuperDragão

    Rod Speed Guest

    MM wrote
    > Gene E. Bloch <> wrote


    >> Tell ya what, do what I do.


    >> Pay attention to the signs on the road and watch your speedometer.


    > Ah, so you don't believe a word the sat-nav says, either!
    > Maybe I'll put a book of road maps in the car, too. £3.99
    > for the 2012 edition, but what the heck?


    It wont have the latest speed limits in it either.

    Even the online services dont have it up to the second either.

    Only the street signs tell you that.

    > The sat-nav was "only" £107.


    >> I find that my Garmin is occasionally not up to date, but I also
    >> note that when it is, the speed limit on the display changes
    >> within a very few feet of the sign by the road. Impressive.


    > Oh, so does the TomTom -- *when* it knows what the correct speed limit is!


    > The TomTom merrily dings away as I approach the speed cam,
    > but it's rather disconcerting to see the 40 mph roundel on the
    > sat-nav's screen when you know you're actually in a 30 mph
    > zone and you've paid £107 for erroneous information.


    You can use the street signs if you pay even more for your car rego.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 25, 2011
    #16
  17. SuperDragão

    Rod Speed Guest

    MM wrote
    > Stuart <> wrote
    >> MM <> wrote


    >>> If all sat-navs are as bad as one another, then they are
    >>> not fit for purpose, at least in terms of speed advice.


    >> I'm afraid sat-navs were never intended to replace the human
    >> brain and proper observation and concentration on driving.


    > You think the manufacturers could not bust a gut and
    > get speed limit revisions incorporated within six months?


    Corse they could but you'd be paying a hell of a lot more
    if you want them to be driving all the roads every day just
    so they are always as up to date as possible.

    > Another comment I read placed the time lag of
    > updates reflecting accuracy of data at 1 year!


    You're always free to use a satnav that does if quicker, if you can find one.

    > Which kinda makes the things seem like those VTech
    > gizmos they advertise for kids in the run-up to Christmas.


    Then you need to get your seems machinery seen to.

    >>> then proceed towards the camera, you won't see any speed restriction
    >>> sign! However, because the device says 40 mph, you merrily go on
    >>> your way, past the camera and wham! You've been blitzed.


    >> If you're in a 30 limit when you pull into the petrol station, its up to you
    >> to remember that fact and when in doubt always assume a 30 limit.


    > So, the sat-nav is just taking up unnecessary space and helping to creating a blind spot.


    Nope, its a hell of a lot better than a map book, particularly when
    you are the only person in the car, and even when you arent.

    > Good one!


    You're always free to smash yours.

    >> Apart from anything else, temporary speed limits,
    >> which may only last a few da ys are common-place.


    > These are not temporary speed limits I'm referring to. The works
    > started in March and were completed by the end of April. New traffic
    > calming measures have been implemented over a two mile stretch,
    > with further speed limit revisions before and after the village from NSL
    > down to 50 mph over a six mile stretch -- all of which the TomTom is
    > supremely oblivious to.


    You're always free to see if you can find a satnav that updates quicker.

    The better tomtoms have user editable maps and a way of getting updates
    that others have entered. Corse you didnt buy one of those TomToms.
     
    Rod Speed, Nov 25, 2011
    #17
  18. On 11/24/2011, MM posted:
    > On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:07:50 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
    > <> wrote:


    >> Tell ya what, do what I do.
    >>
    >> Pay attention to the signs on the road and watch your speedometer.


    > Ah, so you don't believe a word the sat-nav says, either! Maybe I'll
    > put a book of road maps in the car, too. £3.99 for the 2012 edition,
    > but what the heck? The sat-nav was "only" £107.


    Why do think I believe that? It certainly isn't what I said.

    All I'm saying is that there is no substitute for common sense adn a
    bit of alertness.

    >> I find that my Garmin is occasionally not up to date, but I also note
    >> that when it is, the speed limit on the display changes within a very
    >> few feet of the sign by the road. Impressive.


    > Oh, so does the TomTom -- *when* it knows what the correct speed
    > limit is!


    > The TomTom merrily dings away as I approach the speed cam, but it's
    > rather disconcerting to see the 40 mph roundel on the sat-nav's screen
    > when you know you're actually in a 30 mph zone and you've paid £107
    > for erroneous information.


    > MM


    In fact, what I'm really trying to imply is that you need to grow up.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Nov 25, 2011
    #18
  19. SuperDragão

    NightStalker Guest

    In article <>,
    says...
    >
    > You think the manufacturers could not bust a gut and get speed limit
    > revisions incorporated within six months? Another comment I read
    > placed the time lag of updates reflecting accuracy of data at 1 year!
    > Which kinda makes the things seem like those VTech gizmos they
    > advertise for kids in the run-up to Christmas.
    >
    >
    >


    I've been reading this thread with interest, and I am smiling wryly.

    I think you have completely the wrong idea about what a satnav is and
    does. Its primary aim is position and direction finding. Full stop.
    All the other stuff, like Points of interest and Speed Limit recognition
    are extras. They are bells and whistles.

    Here in Australia, our speed limits change so often, and we can often
    have 5 different speed limits over a couple of kilometres of road, that
    NO satnav is going to be able to keep up with the changes.

    I have a TomTom Go 930 - top of the range (well, it was when I bought
    it) and it includes multiple country maps. It also has MapShare,
    whereby users can contribute changes, and each time the unit is synced
    to TomTom Home, the MapShare changes that have been verified get synced
    to the unit. But it is still highly inaccurate for speed limits.

    I purchased the separate Speed Cameras download from TomTom, and those
    are VERY accurate. But the actual speed limits, are often way out.

    But - it doesn't bother me. I ignore what the TomTom is telling me
    regarding speed limits anyway. I use the road signs. That is NOT the
    main purpose of having the unit - it's to find my way. And I drive to
    the speed signs and the traffic situation, NOT to the TomTom's speed
    data.

    I suspect your expectations are highly unrealistic, and in fact could
    get you into trouble. Ignore the speed limit data of the TomTom and
    just use it as a destination-finding device, which IS its primary
    intent.

    --

    NightStalker
     
    NightStalker, Nov 25, 2011
    #19
  20. SuperDragão

    SuperDragão Guest

    This thread started w/I writting TTom took a map ( not the first time ) and
    made it worse and that is plain ridiculous. Then this thread got highjacked
    to other areas.
    Anyway, I was just in Florida Ft. Myers and Ft. Pierce. The roads on many
    streets I tried going to said unpaved road now these have been paved for
    many many years. Most alarming are streets near airport at Ft. Myers that
    say unpaved road. That is lame TTom is slow in updating their maps yet they
    put out maps 3-4 a year. For what I ask? Money?
     
    SuperDragão, Nov 25, 2011
    #20
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