Most accurate street/road maps for garmin

Discussion in 'Global Navigation Satellite Systems' started by Dennis Slayton, Jan 23, 2005.

  1. What are the most accurate street/road and back road maps. We will be
    traveling in the SW, some of which will be back roads and lower Calif., San
    Diego are: and don't want to get lost.

    appreciate any responses
     
    Dennis Slayton, Jan 23, 2005
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  2. Dennis Slayton

    Ivor Jones Guest

    Dennis Slayton wrote:
    > What are the most accurate street/road and back road maps. We will
    > be traveling in the SW, some of which will be back roads and lower
    > Calif., San Diego are: and don't want to get lost.
    >
    > appreciate any responses


    What GPS are you using..? Some products won't work with all GPS units.
    When I was in San Diego last September, City Navigator North America v6
    worked flawlessly in my 2610.

    Hope this helps.

    Ivor
     
    Ivor Jones, Jan 23, 2005
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  3. Dennis Slayton

    Colin Wilson Guest

    > What are the most accurate street/road and back road maps. We will be
    > traveling in the SW, some of which will be back roads and lower Calif., San
    > Diego are: and don't want to get lost.
    > appreciate any responses


    They won`t sell you the best maps anyway (City Navigator) if you`ve
    already purchased a unit - they only sell this with hardware unless you
    want to buy from abroad.

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    Colin Wilson, Jan 23, 2005
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    Peter Guest

    Dennis Slayton wrote:

    > What are the most accurate street/road and back road maps. We will be
    > traveling in the SW, some of which will be back roads and lower Calif., San
    > Diego are: and don't want to get lost.


    It would help to know which Garmin model you have. Garmin's
    MetroGuide-NA, CitySelect-NA, and CityNavigator-NA all have
    the same maps and points-of-interest, but differ in their
    auto-routing capabilities. If your GPS doesn't support
    auto-routing then MetroGuide-NA would be the right one to
    get, but if it does have auto-routing then get CitySelect-NA.
     
    Peter, Jan 23, 2005
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  5. Sorry, forget to mention: I have a Garmin GPSMAP 76CS


    "Dennis Slayton" <> wrote in message
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    > What are the most accurate street/road and back road maps. We will be
    > traveling in the SW, some of which will be back roads and lower Calif.,

    San
    > Diego are: and don't want to get lost.
    >
    > appreciate any responses
    >
    >
     
    Dennis Slayton, Jan 23, 2005
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  6. Dennis Slayton

    Peter Guest

    Dennis Slayton wrote:

    > Sorry, forget to mention: I have a Garmin GPSMAP 76CS


    In that case get CitySelect-North America. BTW, you can
    preview all the Garmin maps with the MapViewer at:
    http://www.garmin.com/cartography
    >
    >
    > "Dennis Slayton" <> wrote in message
    > news:ZrQId.335$...
    >
    >>What are the most accurate street/road and back road maps. We will be
    >>traveling in the SW, some of which will be back roads and lower Calif.,
     
    Peter, Jan 23, 2005
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  7. Dennis Slayton

    Ivor Jones Guest

    "Peter" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Dennis Slayton wrote:
    >
    >> Sorry, forget to mention: I have a Garmin GPSMAP 76CS

    >
    > In that case get CitySelect-North America. BTW, you can
    > preview all the Garmin maps with the MapViewer at:
    > http://www.garmin.com/cartography



    Although if you're in the US they won't sell it to you.

    Ivor
     
    Ivor Jones, Jan 23, 2005
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  8. Dennis Slayton

    Peter Guest

    Ivor Jones wrote:
    > "Peter" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>Dennis Slayton wrote:
    >>
    >>>Sorry, forget to mention: I have a Garmin GPSMAP 76CS

    >>
    >>In that case get CitySelect-North America. BTW, you can
    >>preview all the Garmin maps with the MapViewer at:
    >>http://www.garmin.com/cartography

    >
    > Although if you're in the US they won't sell it to you.


    If by "they" you mean an authorized Garmin dealer, then
    "they" will certainly be very happy to sell it to you.
    tvnav sells it for $120 with personalized service;
    Amazon for $108 with impersonal service; and I'm sure
    there are hundreds of other dealers with varying
    prices and service - take your pick.

    BTW, if you happen to also have a good use for a
    mouse-type GPS for a laptop PC then you might
    consider getting the GPS18/nRoute/CitySelect bundle
    and using the second unlock for your handheld. The
    bundle sells for close to the same price as CitySelect
    alone.
     
    Peter, Jan 23, 2005
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  9. Dennis Slayton

    Colin Wilson Guest

    > > In that case get CitySelect-North America.
    > Although if you're in the US they won't sell it to you.


    They won`t sell City Navigator, but you should be able to buy City Select
    - this isn`t the case in europe though, as they refuse to sell either
    without hardware.

    http://www.garminsuck.com

    http://www.provantage.com were the cheapest vendor I could find for the
    euro maps, not sure how they fare for the US maps.

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    Colin Wilson, Jan 24, 2005
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    tvnav.com Guest

    "Ivor Jones" <> wrote in message
    news:ct19t2$2dd$...
    >
    > "Peter" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Dennis Slayton wrote:
    >>
    >>> Sorry, forget to mention: I have a Garmin GPSMAP 76CS

    >>
    >> In that case get CitySelect-North America. BTW, you can
    >> preview all the Garmin maps with the MapViewer at:
    >> http://www.garmin.com/cartography

    >
    >
    > Although if you're in the US they won't sell it to you.


    You are VERY wrong. We have it and we'll sell it to you and we don't
    care where you are.
    --


    Darrel Goheen

    http://www.tvnav.com
     
    tvnav.com, Jan 25, 2005
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  11. Dennis Slayton

    Colin Wilson Guest

    > > Although if you're in the US they won't sell it to you.
    > You are VERY wrong. We have it and we'll sell it to you and we don't
    > care where you are.


    You sell City Navigator ? - this is in direct contrast to Garmins'
    response to me, where they say they only sell the Navigator product with
    hardware.

    They`ll let you but City Select in the US - and should in europe - but
    won`t.

    I refer you to my emails, complaint, and their response:

    http://www.garminsuck.com

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    Colin Wilson, Jan 25, 2005
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  12. Dennis Slayton

    Seagull Guest

    Colin Wilson <> wrote:
    >
    > You sell City Navigator ? - this is in direct contrast to Garmins'
    > response to me, where they say they only sell the Navigator product with
    > hardware.


    Uh, looking at the thread, he was responding to the statement that
    CitySelect wasn't sold. I am sure someone said CS when they meant to
    say CN, but it's good to reply anyway to ensure misinformation isn't
    spread accidentally.


    Cheers,
    -+JLS

    --
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    http://www.aracnet.com/~seagull/ \ (seize the guinea pig!)
     
    Seagull, Jan 25, 2005
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  13. Dennis Slayton

    Ivor Jones Guest

    "Colin Wilson" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> > Although if you're in the US they won't sell it to you.

    >> You are VERY wrong. We have it and we'll sell it to you and we don't
    >> care where you are.

    >
    > You sell City Navigator ? - this is in direct contrast to Garmins'
    > response to me, where they say they only sell the Navigator product with
    > hardware.


    I bought City Navigator North America from Garmin in the UK, but then I
    already had my European 2610.

    Ivor
     
    Ivor Jones, Jan 25, 2005
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  14. Dennis Slayton

    tvnav.com Guest

    "Colin Wilson" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> > Although if you're in the US they won't sell it to you.

    >> You are VERY wrong. We have it and we'll sell it to you and we don't
    >> care where you are.

    >
    > You sell City Navigator ? -


    As I told you many, many times in the past......yes we sell City
    Navigator Europe!
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    Darrel Goheen

    http://www.tvnav.com
     
    tvnav.com, Jan 25, 2005
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  15. Dennis Slayton

    tvnav.com Guest

    "tvnav.com" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > "Colin Wilson" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>> > Although if you're in the US they won't sell it to you.
    >>> You are VERY wrong. We have it and we'll sell it to you and we don't
    >>> care where you are.

    >>
    >> You sell City Navigator ? -

    >
    > As I told you many, many times in the past......yes we sell City
    > Navigator Europe!


    Of course this thread was about City Select North America which we do
    sell. We can't sell City Navigator North America though. We sell all of the
    European software but that really has nothing to do with this thread and
    neither does City Navigator.
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    Darrel Goheen

    http://www.tvnav.com
     
    tvnav.com, Jan 25, 2005
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  16. Dennis Slayton

    Colin Wilson Guest

    > > You sell City Navigator ? -
    > As I told you many, many times in the past......yes we sell City
    > Navigator Europe!


    He was talking about the US version, as was I.

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    Colin Wilson, Jan 25, 2005
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  17. Dennis Slayton

    tvnav.com Guest

    And he was talking about City Select as was I in my original reply.
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    Darrel Goheen

    http://www.tvnav.com




    "Colin Wilson" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> > You sell City Navigator ? -

    >> As I told you many, many times in the past......yes we sell City
    >> Navigator Europe!

    >
    > He was talking about the US version, as was I.
    >
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    tvnav.com, Jan 25, 2005
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  18. Dennis Slayton

    Colin Wilson Guest

    > And he was talking about City Select as was I in my original reply.

    He asked about the most accurate maps per the subject, but I believe this
    thread has become distorted by some misunderstanding and/or misquoting.

    Yes, you sell City Select US (and Europe), but the most accurate from a
    routing point of view are not available because of a bizarre marketing
    ploy by Garmin.

    This is even worse for non-US customers who have even more restrictions
    imposed on what they can buy.

    While we may seem to be at odds at times, i`m very grateful for your
    input on this group, as I am sure many others are, but, as you know from
    previous posts i`ve made;

    *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
    * *
    * I`m a very pissed off customer with a Garmin product, and want *
    * to warn potential customers of their map sale policies *
    * *
    * http://www.garminsuck.com *
    * *
    *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-

    Damn, I should make that my sig ;-)

    I actually referred them to my site the other day as part of a
    "testimonial" (where they want people to say nice things about their
    stuff - I never did receive a reply, and I think its a safe bet to say
    they won`t be using it on their site either :p

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    Colin Wilson, Jan 25, 2005
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  19. Dennis Slayton

    tvnav.com Guest

    "Colin Wilson" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> And he was talking about City Select as was I in my original reply.

    >
    > He asked about the most accurate maps per the subject, but I believe this
    > thread has become distorted by some misunderstanding and/or misquoting.


    Yes and if I remember right you started the misunderstanding by bringing
    up City Navigator when City Select was being discussed. Not only that City
    Navigator does NOT have more accurate maps than City Select anyway.
    And.....the original poster was talking about maps for a 76CS and City
    Select maps are recommended for that GPS.

    > Yes, you sell City Select US (and Europe), but the most accurate from a
    > routing point of view are not available because of a bizarre marketing
    > ploy by Garmin.


    That is BS and you know it besides the thread subject had nothing to do
    with routing.

    > This is even worse for non-US customers who have even more restrictions
    > imposed on what they can buy.


    Just more of the same as above.

    > While we may seem to be at odds at times, i`m very grateful for your
    > input on this group,


    Perhaps that is because I try to always post the facts as I know them.
    If I find out that I have posted wrong information I will make a correction
    as soon as possible and I have no problem whatsoever admitting that I'm
    wrong when I make a mistake. Perhaps that's because I've had a lot of
    practice. ;) Sorry but I can't say the same about most if not all of your
    posts. You have spewed so much garbage and wrong info. to try to justify
    your wrong buying decision that it's laughable and very sad at the same
    time. For those that know your history they know what you say is mostly if
    not all garbage but unfortunately for a newbie they might accidently believe
    your very incorrect information.

    > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
    > * *
    > * I`m a very pissed off customer with a Garmin product, and want *
    > * to warn potential customers of their map sale policies *


    No, you are just trying to make yourself look like a victim when either
    you or the dealer is to blame for your wrong buying decision. If you would
    post only facts it could be valuable info. but when you mix it with lies and
    wrong info. it only confuses people and then those that know the facts have
    to try to correct the wrong info. that you post. Why can't you just accept
    the fact that you screwed up? Garmin map sales policies are VERY simple to
    understand. Here it is again in case you still haven't got it.

    Any Garmin MapSource product (including City Navigator Europe) can be
    bought in the US **except** for City Navigator North America. You can buy
    City Navigator North America in Europe. You cannot buy City Navigator Europe
    in Europe. See how (very) simple that is?

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    Darrel Goheen

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    tvnav.com, Jan 25, 2005
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  20. Dennis Slayton

    Colin Wilson Guest

    > > Yes, you sell City Select US (and Europe), but the most accurate from a
    > > routing point of view are not available because of a bizarre marketing
    > > ploy by Garmin.

    > That is BS and you know it besides the thread subject had nothing to do
    > with routing.


    If he wanted the best maps for *routing* I am right - Garmin do not sell
    City Nav seperately in the US.

    The OPs words were "We will be traveling in the SW, some of which will be
    back roads and lower Calif., San Diego are: and don't want to get lost."

    Perhaps routing makes no difference in not wanting to get lost, so I will
    accede this point - as you say, perhaps the most expensive product is not
    the most suited to his needs.

    I stand by my "bizarre marketing ploy" comment, and will describe again
    what i`m talking about below.

    > > This is even worse for non-US customers who have even more restrictions
    > > imposed on what they can buy.

    > Just more of the same as above.


    Yes, and entirely accurate. See Garmins' reply.

    > > While we may seem to be at odds at times, i`m very grateful for your
    > > input on this group,

    > <snip> For those that know your history they know what you say is mostly if
    > not all garbage but unfortunately for a newbie they might accidently believe
    > your very incorrect information.


    Please lets get this over with once and for all.

    * Garmin DO restrict sales of maps to european customers
    * Garmin will not sell their "premium" map product without hardware
    * Garmin will not sell their "mid-range" map product to european
    customers without hardware, but will sell the equivalent american
    maps to american customers without forcing a hardware purchase

    > For those that know your history they know what you say is mostly if
    > not all garbage


    I have their response in black and white - its available online to view.

    > > * I`m a very pissed off customer with a Garmin product, and want *
    > > * to warn potential customers of their map sale policies *

    > No, you are just trying to make yourself look like a victim when either
    > you or the dealer is to blame for your wrong buying decision. If you would
    > post only facts it could be valuable info. but when you mix it with lies and
    > wrong info. it only confuses people and then those that know the facts have
    > to try to correct the wrong info. that you post.


    My posts indicate the position I am in as a Garmin customer.

    I have never to my knowledge mixed any of my assertions with what I know
    to be lies.

    I bought a Garmin product because of their reputation, and while I may
    have been badly advised by the dealer and / or screwed up myself, I
    expected a little more backup from Garmin on the sale of the mapping
    software given the unit I bought was, afaict, pretty close to the top of
    the range at the time.

    Garmin do not offer the level of support I was expecting as a world
    leader in GPS products, given their restriction on the sale of map
    products to customers in europe.

    They might be great on hardware support, but I want to buy software - I
    already own the hardware.

    > Garmin map sales policies are VERY simple to understand. Here it is
    > again in case you still haven't got it.
    > Any Garmin MapSource product (including City Navigator Europe) can be
    > bought in the US **except** for City Navigator North America. You can buy
    > City Navigator North America in Europe. You cannot buy City Navigator Europe
    > in Europe. See how (very) simple that is?


    ....or City Select Europe - why should I be forced to import ?

    Garmin intentionally restrict map sales to european customers to try to
    force hardware sales in europe - a policy they do not follow in the US.

    You *can* buy City Select USA seperately in america
    You *cannot* buy City Select Europe seperately in europe

    Garmin Europe offered to sell my City Select for £186 on its own as a
    one-off, but I can get the same software with a hardware receiver (GPS18)
    for ~£138.

    I leave it open to the group to figure out how the hell they work out
    their pricing but lets compare...

    Option #1 - for £138 i`d get:

    a) a hardware receiver I could use with a PC / laptop etc.
    b) the first unlock of the maps tied to it
    c) a second "free" unlock I could use with my existing hardware

    Option #2 - For £186 i`d get:

    a) The first unlock. I have no use for a second unlock.

    The second "free" unlock with option #2 would cost me £50 more and not
    include a hardware receiver.

    Do you really think i`d buy another Garmin product just to get use out of
    the not-actually-free-second-unlock under option #2 ?


    PS: if you bothered to read this far, your new site looks a lot better !

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    Colin Wilson, Jan 26, 2005
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