GPS devices vs converged smart phones

Discussion in 'Magellan' started by ps56k, Jun 6, 2008.

  1. ps56k

    ps56k Guest

    snipet from news article....

    personally - I like my Garmin Nuvi 260,
    and don't really think about "carrying it around" like a cellphone.
    I also wonder how folks are actually using their nav application
    on a cellphone - only as needed, or a lot -
    and the logistics of actually using it in a car ?
    ---
    Remember: Convergence, not Divergence
    As converged mobile devices continue to gain in popularity, some of the
    biggest casualties will be firms that sell gadgets that will be converged
    away. Some pundits argue that there is room for stand-alone gadgets to
    co-exist with converged mobile devices. But remember, it's all about
    convergence and not divergence. Why would you want to carry around separate
    GPS, camera, music, phone, and other devices when they can all be merged
    into one solution? Already, the MP3 player has become a standard feature in
    every smartphone, cannibalizing the stand-alone portable music player
    market. Next up is one of the hottest electronic gadgets in recent years:
    the stand-alone GPS system.

    Some of the latest smartphones already have GPS navigation capabilities, and
    as this function becomes a standard feature, stand-alone GPS device makers
    like Garmin (NasdaqGS:GRMN - News) are at risk. Garmin dominates the
    stand-alone GPS market with more than 50% share and has realized the threat
    of convergence, going defensive with plans to roll out the Nuvi smartphone
    by the end of 2008. However, the mobile phone market is completely foreign
    to Garmin, and it is unlikely that the firm can dominate the converged
    mobile device market like it has the stand-alone GPS space. A silver lining
    for Garmin may be Apple's triumphant foray into the smartphone market with
    the iPhone. But, then again, very few companies can replicate Apple's
    success at rolling out elegant, trendy, and user-friendly devices.


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    "If everything seems to be going well,
    you have obviously overlooked something." - Steven Wright
     
    ps56k, Jun 6, 2008
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  2. ps56k

    Graculus Guest

    "ps56k" <> wrote in message
    news:9Ib2k.7831$...
    > snipet from news article....
    >
    > personally - I like my Garmin Nuvi 260,
    > and don't really think about "carrying it around" like a cellphone.
    > I also wonder how folks are actually using their nav application
    > on a cellphone - only as needed, or a lot -
    > and the logistics of actually using it in a car ?


    I love havng TomTom right there on my SmartPhone, as well as MemoryMap for
    when I'm walking/cycling. Because it's considered unwise to leave your
    SatNav in the car, I'd hate to have to cart a standalone unit around with me
    as well as my phone. It sits in a windscreen-mounted cradle in the gap
    between steering wheel and door, with a power connector tucked unobtrusively
    into the dashboard. And I can still use the phone hands-free with a
    bluetooth headset.

    On the convergence front, I think we've still a way to go to get proper
    camera functionality in the phone. While they may go on about how many
    megapixels they have, most of the lenses are cheap plastic jobs, and I
    daresay the CCD isn't the best, so the quality is rubbish compared with even
    the cheaper end of the digital camera market.
     
    Graculus, Jun 6, 2008
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  3. ps56k

    Rod Speed Guest

    ps56k <> wrote:
    > snipet from news article....


    > personally - I like my Garmin Nuvi 260,
    > and don't really think about "carrying it around" like a cellphone.


    Can be handy when out of the car at times tho.

    > I also wonder how folks are actually using their nav application on a cellphone - only as needed, or a lot -


    Only as needed. I prefer to carry around only a
    single device, so need everything in the cellphone.

    > and the logistics of actually using it in a car ?


    I dont do that, I use a real GPS in the car, mainly because the
    cellphone screens are too small to be viable for routine use in the car.
    > ---
    > Remember: Convergence, not Divergence


    > As converged mobile devices continue to gain in popularity, some of the biggest casualties will be firms that sell
    > gadgets that will be converged away.


    Yep, I dont bother with a watch anymore. Not ideal when you end up in hospital
    tho. Easy fix for that is to have a watch in the bag with the other hospital stuff.

    > Some pundits argue that there is room for stand-alone
    > gadgets to co-exist with converged mobile devices.


    And so does anyone with a clue.

    > But remember, it's all about convergence and not divergence. Why would you want to carry around separate GPS, camera,
    > music, phone, and other devices when they can all be merged into one solution?


    Why indeed ? I'd prefer to eliminate the keys and the wallet/cards/cash too.

    > Already, the MP3 player has become a standard feature in every smartphone, cannibalizing the stand-alone portable
    > music player market. Next up is one of the hottest electronic gadgets in recent years: the stand-alone GPS system.


    The problem is that most want a GPS with a screen bigger than they prefer with the cellphone.

    > Some of the latest smartphones already have GPS navigation capabilities, and as this function becomes a standard
    > feature, stand-alone GPS device makers like Garmin (NasdaqGS:GRMN - News) are at risk.


    I doubt it.

    > Garmin dominates the stand-alone GPS market with more than 50% share and has realized the threat of convergence, going
    > defensive
    > with plans to roll out the Nuvi smartphone by the end of 2008.


    And all the majors have been supporting PDAs for a long time now.

    > However, the mobile phone market is completely foreign to Garmin, and it is unlikely that the firm can dominate the
    > converged mobile device market like it has the stand-alone GPS space. A silver lining for
    > Garmin may be Apple's triumphant foray into the smartphone market
    > with the iPhone. But, then again, very few companies can replicate
    > Apple's success at rolling out elegant, trendy, and user-friendly devices.


    Bullshit, anyone can copy that sort of thing just like they did the ipod.
     
    Rod Speed, Jun 6, 2008
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  4. ps56k

    Rod Speed Guest

    Graculus <> wrote:
    > "ps56k" <> wrote in message
    > news:9Ib2k.7831$...
    >> snipet from news article....
    >>
    >> personally - I like my Garmin Nuvi 260,
    >> and don't really think about "carrying it around" like a cellphone.
    >> I also wonder how folks are actually using their nav application
    >> on a cellphone - only as needed, or a lot -
    >> and the logistics of actually using it in a car ?

    >
    > I love havng TomTom right there on my SmartPhone, as well as
    > MemoryMap for when I'm walking/cycling. Because it's considered
    > unwise to leave your SatNav in the car, I'd hate to have to cart a
    > standalone unit around with me as well as my phone. It sits in a
    > windscreen-mounted cradle in the gap between steering wheel and door,
    > with a power connector tucked unobtrusively into the dashboard. And I
    > can still use the phone hands-free with a bluetooth headset.


    > On the convergence front, I think we've still a way to go to get proper camera functionality in the phone.


    Nope, look at the high end Nokias some time.

    > While they may go on about how many megapixels they have, most of the lenses are cheap plastic jobs, and I daresay the
    > CCD isn't the best, so the quality is rubbish compared with even the cheaper end of the digital camera market.


    Wrong.
     
    Rod Speed, Jun 6, 2008
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