Garmin Auto Power Down (I HATE IT)

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  1. Ted

    Ted Guest

    I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.

    Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?

    Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    vehicle.

    Ted
     
    Ted, Feb 18, 2004
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    Non Toxic Guest

    "Ted" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    > truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    > auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    > resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    >
    > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    > so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    > internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?
    >
    > Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    > opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    > snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    > vehicle.
    >
    > Ted


    Disabling the power down option is a feature in the GPSMAP 60C . . . . . .

    NT
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    Non Toxic, Feb 18, 2004
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  3. Ted

    Ben Eenhoorn Guest

    Ted wrote:

    > I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    > truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    > auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    > resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    >
    > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    > so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    > internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?
    >
    > Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    > opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    > snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    > vehicle.
    >
    > Ted


    Mine gives me 30 seconds before it powers down in these instances,
    wherein I can press any button to keep it on. Perhaps it's a feature of
    new firmware?
     
    Ben Eenhoorn, Feb 18, 2004
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  4. Ted

    Carsten Kurz Guest

    Ted schrieb:
    >
    > I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    > truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    > auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    > resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    >
    > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    > so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    > internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?


    Some units switch over to battery power, some seem to shut down. It
    would indeed be interesting to know why Garmin handles it differently
    for certain units.

    - Carsten

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    Carsten Kurz, Feb 18, 2004
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  5. Ted <> wrote in news:kps5309p5gmq2e7c19vbp5qsh1qr6jlk7j@
    4ax.com:

    > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    > so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    > internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?


    What would be very nice is an option to stay powered up, and an option to
    automatically power up when external power is restored... for automotive
    use, that seems painfully obvious.

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    Albert Nurick, Feb 18, 2004
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  6. Ted

    Hm Guest

    > > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    > > so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    > > internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?

    >
    > What would be very nice is an option to stay powered up, and an option to
    > automatically power up when external power is restored... for automotive
    > use, that seems painfully obvious.


    That is what the 26x0 Streetpilots do though they do not have batteries so
    power gone is GPS off.
     
    Hm, Feb 18, 2004
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  7. Ted

    Joe Stella Guest

    On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:20:58 -0800, Ted <> wrote:

    > I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    >truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    >auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    >resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    >
    > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    >so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    >internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?
    >
    > Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    >opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    >snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    >vehicle.
    >


    Many Moons Ago, Garmin units did not shut off when external power was
    removed. People complained because they would forget to shut off the
    unit themselves, and would come back to their car next morning to
    find dead batteries in the unit.

    I for one am glad that the unit shuts down, but I also think it would be
    nice if they had an option in the setup menu to shut that off for the
    people who would rather have it that way.
     
    Joe Stella, Feb 19, 2004
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  8. Ted

    Carsten Kurz Guest

    Joe Stella schrieb:

    > Many Moons Ago, Garmin units did not shut off when external power was
    > removed. People complained because they would forget to shut off the
    > unit themselves, and would come back to their car next morning to
    > find dead batteries in the unit.


    And what would be so bad if the unit had dead batteries when it can
    still be powered by the car?

    They could as well complain about the unit not shutting down when
    powered from battery only ;-)

    Some Garmins do this, some not. Don't know where Garmin draws the line.
    If they did it due to these complaints, it would be somehow logical they
    implemented the shutdown on external power loss only for the
    automative/routing series.

    Magellans beep upon power loss, but continue to work.

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    Carsten Kurz, Feb 19, 2004
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  9. Ted

    The Steven Guest

    > What would be very nice is an option to stay powered up, and an option to
    > automatically power up when external power is restored... for automotive
    > use, that seems painfully obvious.


    That's a feature I'd like to see!

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    The Steven, Feb 19, 2004
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  10. Ted

    The Steven Guest

    > I for one am glad that the unit shuts down, but I also think it would be
    > nice if they had an option in the setup menu to shut that off for the
    > people who would rather have it that way.


    Hello, Garmin.... Are you listening?

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  11. Ted

    Bob Guest

    What kind of truck? If it's a Dodge, and probably others, you can make the
    Power port hot all the time by moving a fuse. The GPSMAP doesn't draw enough
    current to run the vehicle battery down in a Month of Sundays.
    "Ted" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    > truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    > auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    > resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    >
    > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    > so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    > internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?
    >
    > Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    > opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    > snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    > vehicle.
    >
    > Ted
     
    Bob, Feb 19, 2004
    #11
  12. Ted

    Steve m... Guest

    I noticed they give you the option of either doing this auto power down or
    leaving it on with my Magellan SporTrak Topo. It is a nice feature
    actually.


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    "Ted" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    > truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    > auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    > resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    >
    > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    > so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    > internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?
    >
    > Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    > opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    > snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    > vehicle.
    >
    > Ted
     
    Steve m..., Feb 19, 2004
    #12
  13. Ted

    Ted Guest

    It's a Toyota Tacoma.

    Thanks,
    Ted



    On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:18:12 -0500, "Bob" <>
    wrote:

    >What kind of truck? If it's a Dodge, and probably others, you can make the
    >Power port hot all the time by moving a fuse. The GPSMAP doesn't draw enough
    >current to run the vehicle battery down in a Month of Sundays.
    >"Ted" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    >> truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    >> auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    >> resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    >>
    >> Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    >> so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    >> internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?
    >>
    >> Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    >> opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    >> snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    >> vehicle.
    >>
    >> Ted

    >
     
    Ted, Feb 19, 2004
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  14. Ted

    Ted Guest

    Thanks for the reply. I did some digging around and found an easy
    solution for my truck.

    According to the Toyota Tundra FAQ I need to bypass a relay in the
    fuse box with a 3" 14 awg wire jumper & .25" male spade terminals or a
    dummy relay. My Tacoma has the same relay for the 2 power ports. The
    3rd port with the cigarette lighter is still off, which is fine by me.

    It would still be very nice if Garmin added an uninterruptable
    power option in a firmware update and set the default to off, so some
    poor SOB calling in air support from the Coast Guard doesn't have dead
    batteries.

    Ted


    On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:18:12 -0500, "Bob" <>
    wrote:

    >What kind of truck? If it's a Dodge, and probably others, you can make the
    >Power port hot all the time by moving a fuse. The GPSMAP doesn't draw enough
    >current to run the vehicle battery down in a Month of Sundays.
    >"Ted" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    >> truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    >> auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    >> resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    >>
    >> Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    >> so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    >> internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?
    >>
    >> Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    >> opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    >> snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    >> vehicle.
    >>
    >> Ted

    >
     
    Ted, Feb 19, 2004
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  15. Ted

    LD Guest

    Hey guys, I just got off the phone w/Garmin. He (Larry) in their typical
    excellent response/customer service, said ALL the new/current units have the
    auto shutdown feature (?). He said basically, that's what the customers
    want.
    I told him I disagreed, and like the earthmate, the unit that Humminbird
    offers, and my old 12XL, I don't have to keep an eye on it to see if it's
    going to stop because the plug came loose. You can't lay a track if it
    starts and stops!! Just who ARE the whinners that can't remember to turn
    off their units?? Anyhow, we have inexpensive rechargable batteries these
    days.

    Larry said there is no plan to offer a firmware upgrade.

    I've been looking at the 76map vs. the Magellan Meridian because now I want
    to take advantage of the WAAS to find the fishing spots in the Gulf of
    Mexico in my boat. I do NOT want the unit to shut down if the cig lighter
    plug comes loose so it looks like I must go w/Magellan.
    LD

    "Joe Stella" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:20:58 -0800, Ted <> wrote:
    >
    > > I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    > >truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    > >auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    > >resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    > >
    > > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    > >so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    > >internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?
    > >
    > > Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    > >opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    > >snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    > >vehicle.
    > >

    >
    > Many Moons Ago, Garmin units did not shut off when external power was
    > removed. People complained because they would forget to shut off the
    > unit themselves, and would come back to their car next morning to
    > find dead batteries in the unit.
    >
    > I for one am glad that the unit shuts down, but I also think it would be
    > nice if they had an option in the setup menu to shut that off for the
    > people who would rather have it that way.
    >
     
    LD, Feb 27, 2004
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  16. Ted

    Carsten Kurz Guest

    LD schrieb:
    >
    > Hey guys, I just got off the phone w/Garmin. He (Larry) in their typical
    > excellent response/customer service, said ALL the new/current units have the
    > auto shutdown feature (?). He said basically, that's what the customers
    > want.


    Oh boy. Don't they know that quite a few cars switch of their zigsockets
    with the ignition off?

    IF that's really what the customers want, I'm sure customers also want
    those units to automatically switch on if the external power returns ...

    - Carsten

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    Carsten Kurz, Feb 27, 2004
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  17. Ted

    PanEuropean Guest

    Carsten wrote:

    "Oh boy. Don't they know that quite a few cars switch of their zigsockets
    with the ignition off? IF that's really what the customers want, I'm sure
    customers also want those units to automatically switch on if the external
    power returns ..."

    Well, that's exactly what the newest automobile units (the SP 2610 and SP
    2650) do - they have no batteries, so, if you leave the power switch on the
    side of the GPSR in the ON position (it is a manual switch, not a software
    switch), the GPSR shuts down when the vehicle is turned off, and comes back
    on again automatically when the car is next turned back on.

    PanEuropean
     
    PanEuropean, Feb 27, 2004
    #17
  18. Ted

    Carsten Kurz Guest

    PanEuropean schrieb:

    > Well, that's exactly what the newest automobile units (the SP 2610 and SP
    > 2650) do - they have no batteries, so, if you leave the power switch on the
    > side of the GPSR in the ON position (it is a manual switch, not a software
    > switch), the GPSR shuts down when the vehicle is turned off, and comes back
    > on again automatically when the car is next turned back on.


    True, but not really a surprise with units that do not have a battery
    option. Garmins position towards the auto-switch-off was that it
    preserves battery ...

    - Carsten



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    Carsten Kurz, Feb 27, 2004
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  19. I believe my 60C has the option I can select..."turn off when power
    disconnected" or "stay on after disconnected".

    I'd imagine any new units would also have this option...don't give up on
    Garmin yet.

    "LD" <> wrote in message
    news:zsK%b.24576$...
    > Hey guys, I just got off the phone w/Garmin. He (Larry) in their typical
    > excellent response/customer service, said ALL the new/current units have

    the
    > auto shutdown feature (?). He said basically, that's what the customers
    > want.
    > I told him I disagreed, and like the earthmate, the unit that Humminbird
    > offers, and my old 12XL, I don't have to keep an eye on it to see if it's
    > going to stop because the plug came loose. You can't lay a track if it
    > starts and stops!! Just who ARE the whinners that can't remember to turn
    > off their units?? Anyhow, we have inexpensive rechargable batteries these
    > days.
    >
    > Larry said there is no plan to offer a firmware upgrade.
    >
    > I've been looking at the 76map vs. the Magellan Meridian because now I

    want
    > to take advantage of the WAAS to find the fishing spots in the Gulf of
    > Mexico in my boat. I do NOT want the unit to shut down if the cig lighter
    > plug comes loose so it looks like I must go w/Magellan.
    > LD
    >
    > "Joe Stella" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >
    > > On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:20:58 -0800, Ted <> wrote:
    > >
    > > > I have a GPSMAP 76 that I run with a cigarette adapter in my new
    > > >truck. All my cigarette plugs are hooked to the ignition so the unit
    > > >auto powers down when I stop. I usually forget to power it back up
    > > >resulting in the loss of some potentially cool track logs.
    > > >
    > > > Why doesn't Garmin have an option to disable this annoying feature
    > > >so users like me can have uninterruptable power that reverts to the
    > > >internal batteries? Laptops do it, why not Garmin's?
    > > >
    > > > Yes, I've thought about rewiring the cigarette plugs. This involves
    > > >opening up the complex dashboard, potentially breaking small plastic
    > > >snaps, etc... Maybe I'll do it in a few years, but not on a brand new
    > > >vehicle.
    > > >

    > >
    > > Many Moons Ago, Garmin units did not shut off when external power was
    > > removed. People complained because they would forget to shut off the
    > > unit themselves, and would come back to their car next morning to
    > > find dead batteries in the unit.
    > >
    > > I for one am glad that the unit shuts down, but I also think it would be
    > > nice if they had an option in the setup menu to shut that off for the
    > > people who would rather have it that way.
    > >

    >
    >
     
    300th CDN Degree Confluence visitor, Feb 27, 2004
    #19
  20. In article <zsK%b.24576$>,
    LD <> wrote:
    >Hey guys, I just got off the phone w/Garmin. He (Larry) in their typical
    >excellent response/customer service, said ALL the new/current units have the
    >auto shutdown feature (?). He said basically, that's what the customers
    >want.


    I don't know how Garmin determines what customers want, but for me,
    as a Garmin customer (since 1998), and having bought some 8 Garmin
    products, the current "auto shutdown feature" is certainly NOT how
    I want it.

    If it just wasn't there, I would gladly live with it. If it was
    user-settable, I think everybody would be happy.

    But the way it is now, I also really, really HATE it!

    -- ted
     
    Ted Lindgreen, Feb 27, 2004
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