Terry Pinnell wrote:
> My wife recently bought her first sat-nav, a Garmin Nuvi. Not to be
> outdone I bought a Tom Tom XL. Neither products were to hand on a
> recent trip to Germany, where we used a rented Astra with a built-in
> sat-nav. We were disappointed that it wouldn't navigate us to a very
> popular tourist spot, a large lake called Kemnade See, near the town
> of Witten.
>
> On our return we've just checked whether our own units (both equipped
> with European maps) could find Kemnade. I was unhappy to find that her
> Garmin did but my Tom-Tom didn't. I found Witten for example, but no
> KEMNADE. Is that typical? Is the Garmin database known to be more
> comprehensive than the Tom-Tom's?

>So did you see a lake near Witten? Or look it up on internet maps to see if
>there's an alternative name/spelling? Do either devices offer approximations
>like M$ Autoroute Europe 2002 is offering me (all over the world!). (It does
>find a Haus Kemnade in a road of that name that crosses the Ruhr near a
>bulge that might be a lake. But the bulge is not named.

Cheers, Mike.

Now, on my 25k map of the area, the 'bulge' is called Kemnader See. It is a 2.2.mile long wide stretch of the Ruhr.
I would be interested to know the lat and long of the point to which the Garmin would place you.
I mean, does it drop you at Hans's Burger Bar, the entrance to the pleasure steamer terminal or quite where?
TomTom offers a tourist attraction poi of the Haus Kemnade.
Again, it lies in the gift of the designers as to what constitutes an entry in the main database.
Personally, I would have said that Herbede or Heven were more likely destinations than Witten anyway!

earlyrhubarb_earlytobed wrote:
> Mike C wrote:
>> So did you see a lake near Witten? Or look it up on internet maps to
>> see if there's an alternative name/spelling? Do either devices offer
>> approximations like M$ Autoroute Europe 2002 is offering me (all
>> over the world!). (It does find a Haus Kemnade in a road of that
>> name that crosses the Ruhr near a bulge that might be a lake. But
>> the bulge is not named.
>
> Cheers, Mike.
>
> Now, on my 25k map of the area, the 'bulge' is called Kemnader See.
> It is a 2.2.mile long wide stretch of the Ruhr. I would be interested
> to know the lat and long of the point to which the Garmin would place
> you.
> I mean, does it drop you at Hans's Burger Bar, the entrance to the
> pleasure steamer terminal or quite where? TomTom offers a tourist
> attraction poi of the Haus Kemnade.
> Again, it lies in the gift of the designers as to what constitutes an
> entry in the main database.
> Personally, I would have said that Herbede or Heven were more likely
> destinations than Witten anyway!

Yes, "Kemnader See" is what Google Maps says, and Terry was missing the "r",
so if the look-up is simply verbatim (no approximations) then it will not be
found.

If you are really interested (?), M$ Autoroute Europe 2002 (I don't have a
Garmin with mapping, and the satnav I do have doesn't have Europe) gives
Haus Kemnade, An der Kemnade 10, 45527 Hattingen, Deutschland, as at
51.40790 N 7.24863 E. Witten is nearby and useful for finding the region but
is apparently not part of the address. The "lake runs NE from there,
alongside the A24.

Cheers, Mike.
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