> INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS)
>
> SERVICE INTERNATIONAL DE LA ROTATION TERRESTRE ET DES SYSTEMES DE REFERENCE
>
>
> SERVICE DE LA ROTATION TERRESTRE
> OBSERVATOIRE DE PARIS
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>
> Paris, 8 July 2011
>
>
> Bulletin C 42
>
> To authorities responsible
> for the measurement and
> distribution of time
>
>
>
> INFORMATION ON UTC - TAI
>
>
> NO positive leap second will be introduced at the end of December 2011.
> The difference between Coordinated Universal Time UTC and the
> International Atomic Time TAI is :
>
> from 2009 January 1, 0h UTC, until further notice : UTC-TAI = -34 s
>
> Leap seconds can be introduced in UTC at the end of the months of December
> or June, depending on the evolution of UT1-TAI. Bulletin C is mailed every
> six months, either to announce a time step in UTC, or to confirm that there
> will be no time step at the next possible date.
>
>
> Daniel GAMBIS
> Director
> Earth Orientation Center of IERS
> Observatoire de Paris, France
>
>
> IMPORTANT: After years of discussions, a proposal to fundamentally redefine
> UTC will come to a conclusive vote in January 2012 at the ITU-R in Geneva.
>
> This proposal would halt the intercalary adjustments known as leap seconds
> that maintain UTC as a form of Universal Time.
>
> The Earth Orientation Center of the IERS organizes a survey online with the
> objective to find out the strength of opinion for maintaining or changing
> the present system.
>
> Link to the questionnaire:
>
> http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/index....=questionnaire
>
> Your response is appreciated before 30 August 2011
> __________________________________________

On Jul 8, 3:17*pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > * * *INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS)
>

What a bunch of incompetent frauds.

The basis for these ridiculous 'leap second' corrections is based on
attaching significance to planetary dynamics via right ascension
which is why they assume 366 1/4 rotations each orbital circuit by
employing a type of reasoning that should embarrass people.

Enough of this nonsense,the leap day correction of Feb 29th 2012
closes out 4 orbital circuits of 1461 rotations and not 1465
rotations.It is not enough that these people make fools of themselves
but this is our generation who are the first to see the complete lapse
of reasoning which saw something as stupid as a 'leap second'
correction emerge when it only needs Feb 29th to obliterate that
reasoning.

The people who created the error are not responsible as the error is
easy enough to make even if the consequences are terrible,but
this,this generation who can clearly see the nuts and bolts where the
calendar system and planetary dynamics mesh and separate will end up
the most despised of all insofar as knowing the thing is wrong yet
can't act on it.

You are to be commended for continuing to propagate this nonsense
Sam,it only goes to show how indoctrinated people are rather than how
they pride the ability to reason and adapt to proper conceptions.

oriel36 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Jul 8, 3:17 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS)

Now look whatyu have done.
You've woken the troll once again.

[snip repetiotions from 2007, 2008, ...]

Now that you are here again please answer the simple question
from long ago that you were evading again and again:

Please answer a simple question:
A) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
24h 00' 00'' / sin(geographical latitude)
or
B) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
23h 56' 04'' / sin(geographical latitude)
(that is 24h or 23h56', at the poles)

What will it be, A or B?

Jan

On Jul 8, 5:54*pm, nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
> oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 8, 3:17 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > * * *INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS)
>
> Now look whatyu have done.
> You've woken the troll once again.
>
> [snip repetiotions from 2007, 2008, ...]
>
> Now that you are here again please answer the simple question
> from long ago that you were evading again and again:
>
> Please answer a simple question:
> A) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> * * 24h 00' 00'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> or
> B) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> * *23h 56' 04'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> (that is 24h or 23h56', at the poles)
>
> What will it be, A or B?
>
> Jan

Son,the addiction to right ascension is generating the belief that
there are 366 1/4 rotations in 365 1/4 days -

"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but
there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year." NASA

With or without clocks,the Earth turns 1461 times across 4 orbital
circuits or,in timekeeping terms,1461 days in 4 calendar years with
Feb 29th closing out the 1461 st rotation.

No clocks necessary,if you can count the times the temperature rises
and falls daily in tandem with the day/night cycle,you can then
express that,despite the cruel fate of NASA ,they no longer have a
spacecraft nor can they express astronomical facts such as why there
are 365 1/4 rotations per orbital circuit.Go ahead,I assure you if you
continue counting,you will discover that when Feb 29th comes around
next year,it will reflect a proportion that your and your buddies
apparently can't comprehend.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/foreca...0&region=world

If you can squeeze 1465 rotations across 4 years/orbital circuits and
this is what attaching daily rotation to stellar circumpolar motion
leads to then good for you,I wouldn't want to hear about it but that
is what you get when you are stuck with a late 17th century mistake of
trying to model celestial motions with timepieces.

On 7/8/11 12:43 PM, oriel36 wrote:
> Son,the addiction to right ascension is generating the belief that
> there are 366 1/4 rotations in 365 1/4 days -

No -- Ascension and declination is a very convenient coordinate
system for the sky.

It is *measured* that there are 366.242199 rotations of the
earth per astronomical year. Observable fact, Gerald! Two sticks
sighting a star on successive nights is in exact agreement with
laser gyros, Foucault pendulum an all other measures of the earth's
rotation.

Leap second are design to keep rotational measurement and timing
systems, civil, scientific and military in sync with one second.

Gerald, your rants, based on your lack of science and math education
is not appreciated!

oriel36 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Jul 8, 5:54 pm, nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
> > oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 8, 3:17 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS)
> >
> > Now look whatyu have done.
> > You've woken the troll once again.
> >
> > [snip repetiotions from 2007, 2008, ...]
> >
> > Now that you are here again please answer the simple question
> > from long ago that you were evading again and again:
> >
> > Please answer a simple question:
> > A) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> > 24h 00' 00'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> > or
> > B) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> > 23h 56' 04'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> > (that is 24h or 23h56', at the poles)
> >
> > What will it be, A or B?
> >
> > Jan
>
> Son,the addiction to right ascension is generating the belief that
> there are 366 1/4 rotations in 365 1/4 days -

[snip more evasions]

So, still no answer,

Jan

On Jul 8, 9:01*pm, nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
> oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 8, 5:54 pm, nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
> > > oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jul 8, 3:17 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > * * *INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS)
>
> > > Now look whatyu have done.
> > > You've woken the troll once again.
>
> > > [snip repetiotions from 2007, 2008, ...]
>
> > > Now that you are here again please answer the simple question
> > > from long ago that you were evading again and again:
>
> > > Please answer a simple question:
> > > A) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> > > * * 24h 00' 00'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> > > or
> > > B) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> > > * *23h 56' 04'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> > > (that is 24h or 23h56', at the poles)
>
> > > What will it be, A or B?
>
> > > Jan
>
> > Son,the addiction to right ascension is generating the belief that
> > there are 366 1/4 rotations in 365 1/4 days -
>
> [snip more evasions]
>
> So, still no answer,
>
> Jan

You are fine,there was a guy last year called 'badastrobuster' who
tried this type of stuff but I am not interested in chasing down this
irritating type of individual and so what if you believe the Earth
rotates 366 1/4 times in a year,it means the basic cause and effect of
day turning to night and temperature fluctuations can't be accounted
for within the proportion of 1461 rotations for 4 orbital circuits or
365 1/4 rotations to 1 orbital circuit.

All the reader has to do is shift the focus to the calendar system
which began Mar 1st 2008 and ends Feb 29th 2012 where the 1461 days
over 4 years transfers to 1461 rotations across 4 orbital circuits.

You are evading nothing,you are simply playing to your cult and
removing indoctrination is not in my portfolio,simply finding sane
people who have a sense that astronomical facts are not trivia and
when you get things wrong,the whole thing stops dead.Most are
overgrown pupils anyway clamoring for approval but genuine men don't
seek that as shared understanding and an intense satisfaction is a
reward in itself.

oriel36 <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Jul 8, 9:01 pm, nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
> > oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 8, 5:54 pm, nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
> > > > oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 8, 3:17 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION
> > > > > > > AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS)
> >
> > > > Now look whatyu have done.
> > > > You've woken the troll once again.
> >
> > > > [snip repetiotions from 2007, 2008, ...]
> >
> > > > Now that you are here again please answer the simple question
> > > > from long ago that you were evading again and again:
> >
> > > > Please answer a simple question:
> > > > A) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> > > > 24h 00' 00'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> > > > or
> > > > B) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> > > > 23h 56' 04'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> > > > (that is 24h or 23h56', at the poles)
> >
> > > > What will it be, A or B?
> >
> > > > Jan
> >
> > > Son,the addiction to right ascension is generating the belief that
> > > there are 366 1/4 rotations in 365 1/4 days -
> >
> > [snip more evasions]
> >
> > So, still no answer,
> >
> > Jan
>
> You are fine,there was a guy last year called 'badastrobuster' who

[snip more evasions]

Crickets chirping,

Jan

On Jul 9, 3:43*pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 2011-07-08 11:54 , J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > oriel36<kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> *wrote:
>
> >> On Jul 8, 3:17 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...@gmail.com> *wrote:
> >>>> * * * INTERNATIONAL EARTH ROTATION AND REFERENCE SYSTEMS SERVICE (IERS)
>
> > Now look whatyu have done.
> > You've woken the troll once again.
>
> > [snip repetiotions from 2007, 2008, ...]
>
> > Now that you are here again please answer the simple question
> > from long ago that you were evading again and again:
>
> > Please answer a simple question:
> > A) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> > * * *24h 00' 00'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> > or
> > B) the period of a Foucault pendulum is
> > * * 23h 56' 04'' / sin(geographical latitude)
> > (that is 24h or 23h56', at the poles)
>
> You really think it's uniform and that you can use high school math?
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ation_of_day_l...
>

Empiricists can't handle the bigger picture which centers on the
purpose of Feb 29th as completing 1461 rotations across 4 orbital
circuits so all it amounts to is interpreting temperature
fluctuations as a means of extracting the rotation of the Earth -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mitopen...8945/lightbox/

The only fact people are supposed to affirm is that 1461 days across 4
years transfers to 1461 rotations across 4 orbital circuits which
reduces to 365 1/4 rotations per circuit.It is efficient and puts this
nonsense of varying the 86400 second day into perspective by some type
of mindnumbing reasoning that is an assault on the eyes.

therefore it shall be, that the year of 360 days and the 5 days added
to their end, so one day as feast of Benevolent Gods [the pharaoh and
family] be from this day after every 4 years added to the 5 epagomenae
before the New Year, whereby all men shall learn, that what was a
little defective in the order as regards the seasons and the year, as
also the opinions which are contained in the rules of the learned on
the heavenly orbits, are now corrected and improved by the Benevolent
Gods [the pharaoh and family]." Canopus decree

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/...pus_decree.htm

So here we are in the 21st century among people who truly believe
there are 1465 rotations in 4 years thereby creating an abysmal
imbalance between 1461 days and 1461 rotations and not even bothered
that a temperature legend basically affirms what every astronomer knew
until they decided otherwise in the late 17th century.

What is it easier to do,call you incompetent frauds or people
genuinely concerned that the 'predictive ' convenience of Ra/Dec has
its limitation and is absurd to apply to daily and orbital dynamics
via right ascension ?.Anyone who imagines there are 366 1/4 rotations
in an orbital circuit ,and empiricists genuinely believe it,is not
qualified to comment on any other relationship between timekeeping
averages and planetary dynamics.








> Now - run along.
>
> --
> gmail originated posts filtered due to spam.

On Jul 9, 9:42*am, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone who imagines there are 366 1/4 rotations
> in an orbital circuit ,and empiricists genuinely believe it,is not
> qualified to comment on any other relationship between timekeeping
> averages and planetary dynamics.

You're clearly not qualified to say that.

John Savard