Changes made from version 2.50 to 2.60:

* Fixed potential memory corruption problem that could occur when tracking
more than one WAAS satellite simultaneously.

Changes made from version 2.34 to 2.50:

* Added 8 new languages (Czech, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, Hungarian,
Norwegian, Polish, and Portuguese).
* Updated French translations.
* Improved WAAS/EGNOS satellite selection algorithm to select the satellite
with the most beneficial corrections given the unit's current position. A unit
will not use a WAAS/EGNOS satellite if the unit's current position is outside
of a given WAAS/EGNOS satellite's service volume.
* Improved external power detection.

On 2 Oct 2003 20:59:53 GMT, Mat <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote :

>Changes made from version 2.50 to 2.60:
>
> * Fixed potential memory corruption problem that could occur when tracking
>more than one WAAS satellite simultaneously.
>
Thanks, but I will stick with the Legend V3.40 software in my Venture
until such time as the Venture upgrade covers more waypoints and
trackpoints and waypoints per route and lets me insert owner
information, as does the Legend software.
--
Regards,
Peter Wilkins

"Mat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Changes made from version 2.50 to 2.60:
>
> * Fixed potential memory corruption problem that could occur when
tracking
> more than one WAAS satellite simultaneously.
>
> Changes made from version 2.34 to 2.50:
>
> * Added 8 new languages (Czech, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, Hungarian,
> Norwegian, Polish, and Portuguese).

Do we as users need all these languages in our firmware? I only need one
language. I could change to a new language with a firmware update if I ever
need a different one. Could we get Garmin to DELETE all the extra
languages and allow us to choose one (or two at the most) before we
upload the firmware so the programmers can use the extra memory for
better things?

RT

> Do we as users need all these languages in our firmware? I only need one
> language. I could change to a new language with a firmware update if I ever
> need a different one. Could we get Garmin to DELETE all the extra
> languages and allow us to choose one (or two at the most) before we
> upload the firmware so the programmers can use the extra memory for
> better things?

The latest firmware offers nothing less than 14 languages. If there
was an option to have only one, there would be 230KB of extra memory
to use as waypoint or maps.

I believe the way the firmware is build does not allow for deletion of
some parts at runtime, since most offsets are fixed at compile time.

I understand that they are not willing to maintain 14 different
firmwares for each model, but at least an english only version would
be feasible.

nha.

"nhadukessaba" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > Do we as users need all these languages in our firmware? I only need one
> > language. I could change to a new language with a firmware update if I
ever
> > need a different one. Could we get Garmin to DELETE all the extra
> > languages and allow us to choose one (or two at the most) before we
> > upload the firmware so the programmers can use the extra memory for
> > better things?
>
> The latest firmware offers nothing less than 14 languages. If there
> was an option to have only one, there would be 230KB of extra memory
> to use as waypoint or maps.
>
> I believe the way the firmware is build does not allow for deletion of
> some parts at runtime, since most offsets are fixed at compile time.
>
> I understand that they are not willing to maintain 14 different
> firmwares for each model, but at least an english only version would
> be feasible.
>
> nha.

I would go for that. I'll bet that an English only firmware would satisfy
95% or more of their market. Even in non-English speaking countries,
there are some people who would choose English-language firmware
if it offered extra memory for other features or expanded current
features.

RT

"Rocky Top" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> I would go for that. I'll bet that an English only firmware would satisfy
> 95% or more of their market.

A comment that can hardly originate from anyone but an American! Ever
been outside the states?
Within the European union, for example, there are more than 300
million inhabitants. Only in the UK is English their maternal
language.

Anders

"Anders Persson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Rocky Top" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> > I would go for that. I'll bet that an English only firmware would
satisfy
> > 95% or more of their market.
>
> A comment that can hardly originate from anyone but an American! Ever
> been outside the states?
> Within the European union, for example, there are more than 300
> million inhabitants. Only in the UK is English their maternal
> language.
>
> Anders

But I am talking about Garmin's sales. I know that there are
one billion Chinese speakers in China, but how many of them
actually purchase Garmin GPS units? Garmin's market is
mostly in the US. Of the other non-English speaking countries
that have a lot of Garmin sales, how many really require native
language menus? Nikon and Canon sell a lot of cameras with
multi-menu functions and they all use English on the LCD
screens. Can you get a Canon D-60 with the menus in
Norwegian? Since Norwegians get along just fine using English
in their camera menus, I'm sure they would get along just
fine having a Garmin GPS base unit in English with an option
to upgrade the firmware to Norwegian.

RT

> But I am talking about Garmin's sales. I know that there are
> one billion Chinese speakers in China, but how many of them
> actually purchase Garmin GPS units? Garmin's market is
> mostly in the US. Of the other non-English speaking countries
> that have a lot of Garmin sales, how many really require native
> language menus? Nikon and Canon sell a lot of cameras with
> multi-menu functions and they all use English on the LCD
> screens. Can you get a Canon D-60 with the menus in
> Norwegian? Since Norwegians get along just fine using English
> in their camera menus, I'm sure they would get along just
> fine having a Garmin GPS base unit in English with an option
> to upgrade the firmware to Norwegian.
>
> RT
Although it's true that most of Garmin's revenue comes from North
America (85 MUSD vs 33 MUSD 1st quarter 2003), I doubt that any
company can afford to neglect a market which contributes $33 millions
in three months??

It's true that they could provide different firmwares, English and
more-than-English (they actually do for the yellow eTrex, but the user
can't choose, since the different programs goes with different
hardware inside). But it would double the number fo firmwares to keep
track of, which probably quadruples the effort they have to put into
that. Seems like a very stupid way to go, according to my experience,
and I'm involved professionally in the same kind of business, although
we don't have that many models of our machines. On the other hand, we
have more customised versions than Garmin has.

By the way, the Canon EOS 10D, for example, allows a selection of
twelve different languages for its display, including Swedish and,
yes, Norwegian.

Anders

Anders Persson wrote:
> "Rocky Top" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
>
>>I would go for that. I'll bet that an English only firmware would satisfy
>>95% or more of their market.
>
>
> A comment that can hardly originate from anyone but an American! Ever
> been outside the states?
> Within the European union, for example, there are more than 300
> million inhabitants. Only in the UK is English their maternal
> language.

So the irish don't count then.

It would work for me, anyway, and, beeing german, english is not my
maternal language.

rainer