You'd think a Nuvi 350 bought in November 2007 would be sufficient for my
needs, but no, I had to have a new Nuvi with the latest features. I'm glad I
got it. I have to go into NYC in a couple of weeks and the 2360 offers
"required" features to keep me on the right roads. The traffic feature
remains to prove its usefulness and accuracy.

One interesting thing is that the 2360 can be oriented in landscape or
portrait. There have been some discussions here about why anyone would want
to see stuff on the left and right, but I won't get into why I prefer the
landscape view. I bring it up because I wear polarized sunglasses, and I
discovered that, when I wear them, the screen darkens somewhat when it's in
landscape mode, so I switch to portrait. It does help.

I especially like the lane assist, showing white (vs. grayed) arrows that
tell me which lane/lanes I should use at an exit or junction. The junction
view is fun, too, showing a picture of what the interstate highway split
looks like to the driver, and which lane to be in on the approach. The
current speed and speed limit features are handy, too. These are of course
lacking in the 350. You'd think I'd be paying attention to the road...
*sigh*

I also like how much easier it is to enter an address, and how it will
automatically fill in the city, at least, if it had been entered once
before. Features like this are never "advertised" per se; it's a matter of
finding out that "this works so much better than my previous model."

Jill's voice is a bit lower pitched on the 2360, and she doesn't sound
exasperated when "recalculating!" The 2360 recalculates quickly, but Jill's
voice doesn't catch up for, I don't know, as much as 15 or so seconds, which
could be critical if the alternate turn is coming up quickly. Also, when the
Nuvi is set to a volume high enough to hear over the road noise, at least,
her voice is raspy like from an overdriven plastic diaphragm.

A small disappointment is the lack of a north arrow, and a fairly serious
lack, I think, is not announcing on which side of the street my destination
is. That happened at least once so far; I'll keep testing it. Another oddity
is that twice, driving 3 hours up I-87, the screen was overtaken by a menu
and Jill's voice asking me to say a voice command. I had to reach over to
tap the previous-screen arrow. Very strange. I also hope the "my trends"
feature teaches the machine what the best routes really are... according to
me.

On 3/18/2011 5:47 PM, Howard Lester wrote:
> You'd think a Nuvi 350 bought in November 2007 would be sufficient for
> my needs, but no, I had to have a new Nuvi with the latest features. I'm
> glad I got it. I have to go into NYC in a couple of weeks and the 2360
> offers "required" features to keep me on the right roads. The traffic
> feature remains to prove its usefulness and accuracy.
>
> One interesting thing is that the 2360 can be oriented in landscape or
> portrait. There have been some discussions here about why anyone would
> want to see stuff on the left and right, but I won't get into why I
> prefer the landscape view. I bring it up because I wear polarized
> sunglasses, and I discovered that, when I wear them, the screen darkens
> somewhat when it's in landscape mode, so I switch to portrait. It does
> help.
>
> I especially like the lane assist, showing white (vs. grayed) arrows
> that tell me which lane/lanes I should use at an exit or junction. The
> junction view is fun, too, showing a picture of what the interstate
> highway split looks like to the driver, and which lane to be in on the
> approach. The current speed and speed limit features are handy, too.
> These are of course lacking in the 350. You'd think I'd be paying
> attention to the road... *sigh*
>
> I also like how much easier it is to enter an address, and how it will
> automatically fill in the city, at least, if it had been entered once
> before. Features like this are never "advertised" per se; it's a matter
> of finding out that "this works so much better than my previous model."
>
> Jill's voice is a bit lower pitched on the 2360, and she doesn't sound
> exasperated when "recalculating!" The 2360 recalculates quickly, but
> Jill's voice doesn't catch up for, I don't know, as much as 15 or so
> seconds, which could be critical if the alternate turn is coming up
> quickly. Also, when the Nuvi is set to a volume high enough to hear over
> the road noise, at least, her voice is raspy like from an overdriven
> plastic diaphragm.
>
> A small disappointment is the lack of a north arrow, and a fairly
> serious lack, I think, is not announcing on which side of the street my
> destination is. That happened at least once so far; I'll keep testing
> it. Another oddity is that twice, driving 3 hours up I-87, the screen
> was overtaken by a menu and Jill's voice asking me to say a voice
> command. I had to reach over to tap the previous-screen arrow. Very
> strange. I also hope the "my trends" feature teaches the machine what
> the best routes really are... according to me.

For me, the speed limit display is non-existent. Perhaps Canadian
(Winnipeg) maps weren't deemed sufficiently important to include speed
limits, just like Canadian maps being slower to include lane-assist
info. A speed limit can be added manually, but the GPS then assumes it
applies to the whole length of that street.

Jill does announce which side of the street my destination is on, but
for my brother, who lives on a "court" in Calgary, she doesn't even know
where his house number is. Her enunciation is far from clear sometimes.
"On Left" comes out as "ah le".

I have had the voice command menu come up unbidden a couple of times.
When that happens, just saying "Exit" will get you back.

Dave S.

"DaveS" wrote

> I have had the voice command menu come up unbidden a couple of times. When
> that happens, just saying "Exit" will get you back.

Thanks, Dave. That's helpful to know. I'm wondering if the voice command
menu came up because a) I had music playing, and b) I was talking. I wonder
if it picked up a specific word that triggered it, kind of like on You Bet
Your Life with Groucho Marx when the duck dropped down after a contestant
uttered the "secret word." ;-)

Howard Lester wrote:
>
> A small disappointment is the lack of a north arrow, and a fairly
> serious lack, I think, is not announcing on which side of the street
> my destination is.

I am trying to replace my old Garmin Quest, and I am SO BUMMED that I don't
see ANY of the Garmins that seem to have the same featurs. The lack of a
North arrow seems lacking ON ANY of them that I've looked through. And yes,
my Quest even though it doesn't announce the actual names DOES announce the
side of the street the destination is on.

Do you or anyone have a unit that comes CLOSE? A couple of the items I
think I Absolutely need is the ability to prodcue routes on my PC and upload
them to the unit as well as see on the main screen items like distance to
next turn, distance to destination, time to destination, and distance to nex
turn. The Quest used to be ability to tailor FOUR data points it would
show - items such as altitude, local sunrise, etc. were all options!-
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew

Andrew wrote:
> Howard Lester wrote:
>>
>> A small disappointment is the lack of a north arrow, and a fairly
>> serious lack, I think, is not announcing on which side of the street
>> my destination is.
>
> I am trying to replace my old Garmin Quest, and I am SO BUMMED that I
> don't see ANY of the Garmins that seem to have the same featurs. The
> lack of a North arrow seems lacking ON ANY of them that I've looked
> through. And yes, my Quest even though it doesn't announce the actual
> names DOES announce the side of the street the destination is on.
>
> Do you or anyone have a unit that comes CLOSE? A couple of the items
> I think I Absolutely need is the ability to prodcue routes on my PC
> and upload them to the unit as well as see on the main screen items
> like distance to next turn, distance to destination, time to
> destination, and distance to nex turn. The Quest used to be ability
> to tailor FOUR data points it would show - items such as altitude,
> local sunrise, etc. were all options!-

By the way, the ONLY reason I want a new unit is that Garmin doesn't supply
updated maps for my Quest. Other than that, I'd keep it forever. Yes,
using the rocker pad to enter data like cities and addresses is 'quaint',
but a small price to pay for all the other geeky features that I have come
to love.
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Regards -
>
> - Andrew

--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Regards -

- Andrew

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:00:20 -0400, "Andrew" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Howard Lester wrote:
>>
>> A small disappointment is the lack of a north arrow, and a fairly
>> serious lack, I think, is not announcing on which side of the street
>> my destination is.
>
> I am trying to replace my old Garmin Quest, and I am SO BUMMED that I don't
>see ANY of the Garmins that seem to have the same featurs. The lack of a
>North arrow seems lacking ON ANY of them that I've looked through. And yes,
>my Quest even though it doesn't announce the actual names DOES announce the
>side of the street the destination is on.

North arrow? I wonder if you'd adapt to a simple North Up display or
an on-screen compass that shows your direction of travel? As for
announcing street names and indicating which side of the street a
destination is on, I assume the entire (current) Nuvi line does that.

>Do you or anyone have a unit that comes CLOSE? A couple of the items I
>think I Absolutely need is the ability to prodcue routes on my PC and upload
>them to the unit as well as see on the main screen items like distance to
>next turn, distance to destination, time to destination, and distance to nex
>turn.

I think all of the Nuvi models can do those things.

> The Quest used to be ability to tailor FOUR data points it would
>show - items such as altitude, local sunrise, etc. were all options!-

Altitude is available on the Nuvi models, but not on the main screen.

Sunshine wrote on Mar 20, 2011:

> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:00:20 -0400, "Andrew" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Howard Lester wrote:
>>>
>
>> The Quest used to be ability to tailor FOUR data points it would
>> show - items such as altitude, local sunrise, etc. were all options!-
>
> Altitude is available on the Nuvi models, but not on the main screen.
>

My Nuvi 765 can show elevation on the main navigation screen.

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mike_lane at mac dot com

[Pamlico]

You might want to check the new Nuvi 2460. I also like having the 'geeky' features which is one reason I liked my old Street Pilot 2610. The 2640 allows 4 customizable tabs on the side of the screen. Each tab can display one of the following:

• Arrival time
• Arrival distance
• Time to destination
• Via arrival
• Distance to via
• Time to via
• Direction of travel
• Elevation
• Time of day

It also allows external trip planning using MapSource (or BaseCamp). The planned route is uploaded and selected without having to 'import' from My Trips as had to be done on my Nuvi 755. The route is immediately available in the new Trip Planner feature, but I just got the device and haven't had a chance to use it with an imported route.

Garmin has also finally restored the ability to specify Custom Avoidances and also the distance of a Detour but they have to be activated (only once) by drilling down in the 'Tools' configuration and selecting 'Advanced Detour'. Using this allows you to choose either the distance to detour (0.5, 2 or 5 miles), or 'Detour by roads on route' where you can choose to detour around multiple locations along the route.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:18:02 -0500, Sunshine wrote:
> Altitude is available on the Nuvi models, but not on the main screen.

It is, but you have to give up something else.

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"Sunshine" wrote

> North arrow? I wonder if you'd adapt to a simple North Up display or
> an on-screen compass that shows your direction of travel? As for
> announcing street names and indicating which side of the street a
> destination is on, I assume the entire (current) Nuvi line does that.

On a trip this morning Jill did announce which side of the street Staples is
on. In this case it was on the left. But as someone earlier wrote, she
sounded a bit drunk: "...onnlef" *hic*