Hi,

I just bought a new motorbike -a Ducati Monster 796 - and as I am
planning to use it for touring reasons I was thinking of buying a new
GPS as well. I don't know a lot about navigation systems so I was
wondering: where do they get the power from? I mean, they need to work
many hours without switching off, the battery cannot last for so long.
Also, there not many models on the market, essencially 2: TomTom and
Garmin - http://www.shoppydoo.co.uk/prices-gp...otorcycle.html -
What are the differences between the models, is the Garmin any better?
Share with me your thoughts please.

Regards
Martin




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Martin Schubert

Martin Schubert wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a new motorbike -a Ducati Monster 796 - and as I am
> planning to use it for touring reasons I was thinking of buying a new
> GPS as well. I don't know a lot about navigation systems so I was
> wondering: where do they get the power from? I mean, they need to work
> many hours without switching off, the battery cannot last for so long.
> Also, there not many models on the market, essencially 2: TomTom and
> Garmin - http://www.shoppydoo.co.uk/prices-gp...otorcycle.html -
> What are the differences between the models, is the Garmin any better?
> Share with me your thoughts please.

Cross-posted this to UKRM, someone there will know ...

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Paul - xxx

On 18/02/2011 18:27, Paul-xxx wrote:
> Martin Schubert wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just bought a new motorbike -a Ducati Monster 796 - and as I am
>> planning to use it for touring reasons I was thinking of buying a new
>> GPS as well. I don't know a lot about navigation systems so I was
>> wondering: where do they get the power from? I mean, they need to work
>> many hours without switching off, the battery cannot last for so long.
>> Also, there not many models on the market, essencially 2: TomTom and
>> Garmin - http://www.shoppydoo.co.uk/prices-gp...otorcycle.html -
>> What are the differences between the models, is the Garmin any better?
>> Share with me your thoughts please.
>
> Cross-posted this to UKRM, someone there will know ...
>

They get their power from the bike battery; the lead that comes with the
GPS can be connected up to power the thing.

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Gyp

On 18/02/2011 18:36, Gyp wrote:

> They get their power from the bike battery; the lead that comes with the
> GPS can be connected up to power the thing.

Actually that's *******s; they *can* be powered from the bike battery;
depending on which GPS you buy, the lead might come with it or you might
have to buy it as an accessory

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Gyp

Gyp <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:ijme7j$7pl$(E-Mail Removed):

> On 18/02/2011 18:27, Paul-xxx wrote:
>> Martin Schubert wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just bought a new motorbike -a Ducati Monster 796 - and as I am
>>> planning to use it for touring reasons I was thinking of buying a
>>> new GPS as well. I don't know a lot about navigation systems so I
>>> was wondering: where do they get the power from? I mean, they need
>>> to work many hours without switching off, the battery cannot last
>>> for so long. Also, there not many models on the market, essencially
>>> 2: TomTom and Garmin -
>>> http://www.shoppydoo.co.uk/prices-gp...otorcycle.html - What are
>>> the differences between the models, is the Garmin any better? Share
>>> with me your thoughts please.
>>
>> Cross-posted this to UKRM, someone there will know ...
>>
>
> They get their power from the bike battery; the lead that comes with
> the GPS can be connected up to power the thing.
>

the Garmin Zumo 220 comes with

"MapSource® City Navigator Europe NT DVD
Motorcycle mount with mounting hardware
Power cable/bare wire
Replaceable battery
Automotive suction cup mount
Automotive power cable
USB cable
Dashboard disc
Quick start manual
Installation instructions"

So has everything you need to fit it to a bike.

If you want a multi-function device that will connect to your phone for
traffic updates, store & play music files then the Zumo 660 is the one
you want.

The Mapsource product, which runs on a PC, is a very good planning tool
and lets you upload maps & waypoints from your PC to the Zumo. This is
one feature which puts Garmin ahead of TomTom. Garmin customer service
is another area where they lead too.


--
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS

> Martin Schubert wrote:
>
> > I just bought a new motorbike -a Ducati Monster 796 - and as I am
> > planning to use it for touring reasons I was thinking of buying a new
> > GPS as well. I don't know a lot about navigation systems so I was
> > wondering: where do they get the power from? I mean, they need to work
> > many hours without switching off, the battery cannot last for so long.

I've got one on my KTM. I mounted a bicycle dynamo on the front wheel
and ran that through a transformer to give me a 12V feed for the satnav.

--
ogden

gsxr1000 - the gentleman's sports-tourer
ktm duke - the practical cross-town commuter

On 18/02/2011 23:45, Mike Coon wrote:

>
> I knew that was a spoof when I read "5Kv" (instead of "5kV"!)...(;-)
>
> Mike.

d'oh. Busted.

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/Simon

"Martin Schubert" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a new motorbike -a Ducati Monster 796 - and as I am
> planning to use it for touring reasons I was thinking of buying a new
> GPS as well. I don't know a lot about navigation systems so I was
> wondering: where do they get the power from? I mean, they need to work
> many hours without switching off, the battery cannot last for so long.
> Also, there not many models on the market, essencially 2: TomTom and
> Garmin - http://www.shoppydoo.co.uk/prices-gp...otorcycle.html -
> What are the differences between the models, is the Garmin any better?
> Share with me your thoughts please.
>
> Regards
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> --
> Martin Schubert

Buy a reasonable Nokia phone. It will have GPS and navigation. You can use
a Bluetooth or wired headset to listen to the directions and even set it up
on voice recognition.

Can power off the bike, but unless you do 1k trips it should endure without
external power.

On 20/02/2011 21:23, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> "Martin Schubert"<(E-Mail Removed). uk> wrote in
> message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just bought a new motorbike -a Ducati Monster 796 - and as I am
>> planning to use it for touring reasons I was thinking of buying a new
>> GPS as well. I don't know a lot about navigation systems so I was
>> wondering: where do they get the power from? I mean, they need to work
>> many hours without switching off, the battery cannot last for so long.
>> Also, there not many models on the market, essencially 2: TomTom and
>> Garmin - http://www.shoppydoo.co.uk/prices-gp...otorcycle.html -
>> What are the differences between the models, is the Garmin any better?
>> Share with me your thoughts please.
>>
>> Regards
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Martin Schubert
>
> Buy a reasonable Nokia phone. It will have GPS and navigation. You can use
> a Bluetooth or wired headset to listen to the directions and even set it up
> on voice recognition.
>
> Can power off the bike, but unless you do 1k trips it should endure without
> external power.
>
>
I've got a Nokia X6. While the sat-nav works pretty well it eats the
battery; you really need external power. If you go Nokia make sure you
have the latest software in it. In mine an upgrade improved GPS
performance no end. Also note that most phone GPS uses info from the
nearest cell towers to help get a fix, so if you are really out in the
sticks a fix can take a long time if at all. Also this can count as data
download on your plan, which might be costly if abroad.
I use the X6 for occasional use, more as a pocket A2Z atlas, and use a
Tomtom for any serious navigation.

"Peter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 20/02/2011 21:23, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
SNIP
>>
>> Buy a reasonable Nokia phone. It will have GPS and navigation. You can
>> use
>> a Bluetooth or wired headset to listen to the directions and even set it
>> up
>> on voice recognition.
>>
>> Can power off the bike, but unless you do 1k trips it should endure
>> without
>> external power.
>>
>>
> I've got a Nokia X6. While the sat-nav works pretty well it eats the
> battery; you really need external power. If you go Nokia make sure you
> have the latest software in it. In mine an upgrade improved GPS
> performance no end. Also note that most phone GPS uses info from the
> nearest cell towers to help get a fix, so if you are really out in the
> sticks a fix can take a long time if at all. Also this can count as data
> download on your plan, which might be costly if abroad.
> I use the X6 for occasional use, more as a pocket A2Z atlas, and use a
> Tomtom for any serious navigation.

You can download and install maps for the whole world (a few Gb) via your
PC.

GPS does drain the juice more quickly.

You can disable the cell assistance - and the Nav definitely works offline
and off net.

Even after GPS switched off and a move is only takes 20-30s to get first fix
on my N79 (compared with minutes on a Blackberry).

If you have a socket on your bike a 12V to Nokia power adapter is about £5.


True about the update/upgrade - I went from V2 to V3 - loads better and it
included the unannounced feature of full Nav', even though Nokia's web site
said it wouldn't (no technical reason AFAICT).