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James A. Donald
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      12-20-2003, 07:47 PM
Pardon my paranoia, but does "GPS enabled" mean that my cell phone can
tell me where where I am, and tell other people where I am when I
choose to use their services, or does it mean the phone company can
track my movements as if I was a registered sex offender wearing a
locator ankle bracelet?
 
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Tony Clark
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      12-20-2003, 07:54 PM
Which phone are you talking about specifically? I would think that GPS
enabled means it can recieve a GPS signal for the purpose of displaying your
location. There are phones systems already that have something called Friend
Finder (or something like that) that will allow your friends (or co-workers)
to get an approximate location on you, IF you enable that feature. This is
not GPS but uses some sort of triangulation based on cell towers you are
using.

TC

PS - Big Brother already knows where you are and where you've been....LOL


"James A. Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Pardon my paranoia, but does "GPS enabled" mean that my cell phone can
> tell me where where I am, and tell other people where I am when I
> choose to use their services, or does it mean the phone company can
> track my movements as if I was a registered sex offender wearing a
> locator ankle bracelet?



 
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noVote
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      12-20-2003, 08:12 PM
I thought GPS enabled phones were for emergency 911 locating. Things like
car jacking and kidnapping. This would make it easy for the police to find
you in the event of an emergency.

Richard

"Tony Clark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Which phone are you talking about specifically? I would think that GPS
> enabled means it can recieve a GPS signal for the purpose of displaying

your
> location. There are phones systems already that have something called

Friend
> Finder (or something like that) that will allow your friends (or

co-workers)
> to get an approximate location on you, IF you enable that feature. This is
> not GPS but uses some sort of triangulation based on cell towers you are
> using.
>
> TC
>
> PS - Big Brother already knows where you are and where you've been....LOL
>
>
> "James A. Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > Pardon my paranoia, but does "GPS enabled" mean that my cell phone can
> > tell me where where I am, and tell other people where I am when I
> > choose to use their services, or does it mean the phone company can
> > track my movements as if I was a registered sex offender wearing a
> > locator ankle bracelet?

>
>



 
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Richard Ness
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      12-20-2003, 08:31 PM
DING!!! Correct answer.

A GPS enabled phone is not a GPS device. It won't give you your position.
It WILL give your position to an E911 operator, or for enhanced services.

It does have the capability, with the systems assistance, of pin pointing your location.
The key is "with the systems assistance". The phone only has a part of the capability
to read the satellites and compute your position. The system actually does the bulk of
the work, thus, the phone is not a stand alone GPS device, just one part of it.



"noVote" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:732Fb.125292$%(E-Mail Removed) .cable.rogers.com...
> I thought GPS enabled phones were for emergency 911 locating. Things like
> car jacking and kidnapping. This would make it easy for the police to find
> you in the event of an emergency.
>
> Richard
>
> "Tony Clark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:uN1Fb.12673$(E-Mail Removed) ink.net...
> > Which phone are you talking about specifically? I would think that GPS
> > enabled means it can recieve a GPS signal for the purpose of displaying

> your
> > location. There are phones systems already that have something called

> Friend
> > Finder (or something like that) that will allow your friends (or

> co-workers)
> > to get an approximate location on you, IF you enable that feature. This is
> > not GPS but uses some sort of triangulation based on cell towers you are
> > using.
> >
> > TC
> >
> > PS - Big Brother already knows where you are and where you've been....LOL
> >
> >
> > "James A. Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > > Pardon my paranoia, but does "GPS enabled" mean that my cell phone can
> > > tell me where where I am, and tell other people where I am when I
> > > choose to use their services, or does it mean the phone company can
> > > track my movements as if I was a registered sex offender wearing a
> > > locator ankle bracelet?

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Bob Kegel
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      12-20-2003, 08:41 PM
"James A. Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Pardon my paranoia, but does "GPS enabled" mean that my cell phone can
> tell me where where I am, and tell other people where I am when I
> choose to use their services,


Potentially. These services have yet to be implemented outside a few test
markets.

> or does it mean the phone company can
> track my movements as if I was a registered sex offender wearing a
> locator ankle bracelet?


The phone company has ALWAYS known where your cell phone is, so long as it
was turned on. A cell phone is a radio transmitter. Anyone with the right
equipment can track it.


 
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Phillip T. Murphy
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      12-20-2003, 09:32 PM

"Richard Ness" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> DING!!! Correct answer.
>
> A GPS enabled phone is not a GPS device. It won't give you your position.
> It WILL give your position to an E911 operator, or for enhanced services.
>
> It does have the capability, with the systems assistance, of pin pointing

your location.
> The key is "with the systems assistance". The phone only has a part of the

capability
> to read the satellites and compute your position. The system actually does

the bulk of
> the work, thus, the phone is not a stand alone GPS device, just one part

of it.
>


A GPS phone can be a GPS device. I carry a Motorola i88s that I can go into
the menu and it will show me my Long. and Lat., how many satellites were
used to obtain that position, and the estimated accuracy of that reading.
Also, it has the ability to output NMEA sentences to the accessory port. It
will, and has, obtained GPS positioning when I am out of Nextel coverage
area, caching the location points until I am back in coverage.

My company subscribes to a service that captures that data and keeps it for
purposes of dispatching the closest person to a service call, delivery,
whatever. (www.cell-tell.com). Nextel is my cell phone service provider,
and as far as I know they are the only ones that have implemented the GPS
technology in an open architecture fashion so that other applications can
get a read for the GPS receiver.

That being said, I have control of the application, whether it is running or
not. The phone also has a security feature built into it that does not
allow my position to be obtained from the GPS.

As stated by another poster, the cell phone company pretty much knows your
position all the time anyway based on what cell towers you are talking to,
and maybe GPS information as well.





 
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John R. Copeland
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      12-20-2003, 10:55 PM

"James A. Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> Pardon my paranoia, but does "GPS enabled" mean that my cell phone can
> tell me where where I am, and tell other people where I am when I
> choose to use their services, or does it mean the phone company can
> track my movements as if I was a registered sex offender wearing a
> locator ankle bracelet?


Yes.
It means you no longer need wear an ankle bracelet.
A gold neck chain or a gaudy oversized ring will suffice.
---JRC---

 
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The Steven
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      12-21-2003, 12:38 AM
> Pardon my paranoia, but does "GPS enabled" mean that my cell phone can
> tell me where where I am, and tell other people where I am when I
> choose to use their services, or does it mean the phone company can
> track my movements as if I was a registered sex offender wearing a
> locator ankle bracelet?


Yes, some new(er) phones have GPS. Some possible services include location
based advertising, talking navigation aid, E-911, etc... And yes, Big
Brother "could" be watching you... but you "know they wouldn't ever do
that..."

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The Steven
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      12-21-2003, 12:43 AM
> The phone company has ALWAYS known where your cell phone is, so long as it
> was turned on. A cell phone is a radio transmitter. Anyone with the right
> equipment can track it.


Within a range of 200~300 meters.... But with phones like the i88 its more
like standard GPS

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Tom J
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      12-21-2003, 04:04 AM
The Steven wrote:
>>Pardon my paranoia, but does "GPS enabled" mean that my cell phone can
>>tell me where where I am, and tell other people where I am when I
>>choose to use their services, or does it mean the phone company can
>>track my movements as if I was a registered sex offender wearing a
>>locator ankle bracelet?

>
>
> Yes, some new(er) phones have GPS. Some possible services include location
> based advertising, talking navigation aid, E-911, etc... And yes, Big
> Brother "could" be watching you... but you "know they wouldn't ever do
> that..."
>


In the Atlanta area about a month ago, 2 women were murdered. Someone
saw the killer running from the house talking on a cell phone and jump
in a truck. With the description of the truck, the police determined
who the killer was, went to his home and obtained his cell phone number
and had a tracer put on it. Within minutes the phone was detected in
one of the northern states, Minnesota I think, and within another few
minutes the police had him cornered in a hospital parking lot. He still
had the murder weapon with him also, but was in an auto, so yes, you can
be traced with the cell phone.

Tom J
 
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