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jameswaters@nospam.com
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      07-10-2010, 01:04 PM
If I want to upgrade my Tomtom, what operating system do i need? My
computer is old and runs Win98se. Yes, the USB does work despite
being the slower USB 1.
 
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Keith
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      07-10-2010, 01:33 PM

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> If I want to upgrade my Tomtom, what operating system do i need? My
> computer is old and runs Win98se. Yes, the USB does work despite
> being the slower USB 1.


Worked for me.
Downloading a map at dial-up speeds would be masochistic - broadband is
fine.
After, possibly the first, Mapshsre downloads are small if you update
weekly.


 
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Anthony R. Gold
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      07-10-2010, 02:46 PM
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:04:56 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> If I want to upgrade my Tomtom, what operating system do i need? My
> computer is old and runs Win98se. Yes, the USB does work despite
> being the slower USB 1.


http://www.tomtom.com/services/servi...r=true#faq-277
says:

For all TomTom GO, ONE, XL, and RIDER devices, the system requirements for Windows are:

Windows 2000, XP, Vista or Windows 7 (32-bit only, newest servicepacks required,)
Pentium III/equivalent or higher
256 MB RAM, 512 required
Internet connection (Broadband - DSL/cable/LAN) for downloading updates, maps or services
The TomTom HOME software is a 20MB download requiring 50MB of disk space when installed

Tony
 
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frischmoutt
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      07-10-2010, 10:16 PM

"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de news:
(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:04:56 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
> > If I want to upgrade my Tomtom, what operating system do i need? My
> > computer is old and runs Win98se. Yes, the USB does work despite
> > being the slower USB 1.

>
>

http://www.tomtom.com/services/servi...or=true#faq-27
7
> says:
>
> For all TomTom GO, ONE, XL, and RIDER devices, the system requirements for

Windows are:
>
> Windows 2000, XP, Vista or Windows 7 (32-bit only, newest servicepacks

required,)
> Pentium III/equivalent or higher
> 256 MB RAM, 512 required
> Internet connection (Broadband - DSL/cable/LAN) for downloading updates,

maps or services
> The TomTom HOME software is a 20MB download requiring 50MB of disk space

when installed
>
> Tony


Hi,
Although 2000 compatibility is written, this isn't true. TomTom Home needs
Microsoft .net Framework 2.0 running over windows 2000 sp4
The Ver 2.7 and below (?? TBC) has a bug preventing to use the "device
handling" menu under all windows 2000 versions.

It seems that some operations can't be performed from the device and need
that menu option.

Home is a PITA, 7 hrs @ 1MB/sec for me to get a map that exhibits errors
during installation. The CRC is OK but it doesn't want to install it onto
the device. The warranty is about to expire and the old map is still there.
TomTom hot line is slow and one question and one iteration needs 8 days.

The device needs to be turned On during the whole map download duration. The
current delivered by the USB port of a portable computer is too low to
ensure the charge (didn't try with a self powered hub yet). If the battery
fails, the d/l aborts. Sometimes it needs to resume sometimes not. Trashy
piece of software. Avoid it as far as possible.

Maps from tomtom are one piece of 2 GB or more. Newsgroups propose them by
parts of something like 50 MB. This is just an information to tell that
tomtom are well away the reality.

About Win98SE, it exists a piece of driver for the USB 2.0 operation. A 2 or
4-port USB 2.0 interface board can be put in the computer in case the MoBo
is USB 1.0. I've one that ran for years in my gateway with an USB ADSL modem
& Win98SE. These boards are very cheap on ebay.

The free space on the disk needs to be 5 to 6 times at least the size of the
map you have to download. The backup of the device first (mandatory), the
download temp dir, the "complete d/l dir" where it puts the downloaded
files, the temp dir during the installation where it puts the unrared files
plus a security. Per default, it puts all the files into documentation &
settings\your_ID. Better move the directories to another disk BEFORE doing
anything else.

I've just been rawing for one month with this stinking software and I
sincerely regret my acquisition (Go950 live) that isn't at the level it
should be for 360 Euros (pouch included).

Have a look at the other GPS newsgroups.
Bye


 
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kraftee
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      07-11-2010, 12:59 PM


"frischmoutt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4c38efa4$0$2948$(E-Mail Removed) r...
>
> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
> news:
> (E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:04:56 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>
>> > If I want to upgrade my Tomtom, what operating system do i need? My
>> > computer is old and runs Win98se. Yes, the USB does work despite
>> > being the slower USB 1.

>>
>>

> http://www.tomtom.com/services/servi...or=true#faq-27
> 7
>> says:
>>
>> For all TomTom GO, ONE, XL, and RIDER devices, the system requirements
>> for

> Windows are:
>>
>> Windows 2000, XP, Vista or Windows 7 (32-bit only, newest servicepacks

> required,)
>> Pentium III/equivalent or higher
>> 256 MB RAM, 512 required
>> Internet connection (Broadband - DSL/cable/LAN) for downloading updates,

> maps or services
>> The TomTom HOME software is a 20MB download requiring 50MB of disk space

> when installed
>>
>> Tony

>
> Hi,
> Although 2000 compatibility is written, this isn't true. TomTom Home needs
> Microsoft .net Framework 2.0 running over windows 2000 sp4
> The Ver 2.7 and below (?? TBC) has a bug preventing to use the "device
> handling" menu under all windows 2000 versions.
>
> It seems that some operations can't be performed from the device and need
> that menu option.
>
> Home is a PITA, 7 hrs @ 1MB/sec for me to get a map that exhibits errors
> during installation. The CRC is OK but it doesn't want to install it onto
> the device. The warranty is about to expire and the old map is still
> there.
> TomTom hot line is slow and one question and one iteration needs 8 days.
>
> The device needs to be turned On during the whole map download duration.
> The
> current delivered by the USB port of a portable computer is too low to
> ensure the charge (didn't try with a self powered hub yet). If the battery
> fails, the d/l aborts. Sometimes it needs to resume sometimes not. Trashy
> piece of software. Avoid it as far as possible.


Or just avoid trying to upgrade without plugging the laptops power supply
into the wall. You appear to have very unrealistic attitudes about the
battery life of _any_ laptop when being used to power/charge another USB
device.

 
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frischmoutt
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      07-11-2010, 03:39 PM

"kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
ka-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> "frischmoutt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4c38efa4$0$2948$(E-Mail Removed) r...
> >
> > "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
> > news:
> > (E-Mail Removed)...
> >> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:04:56 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> >>
> >> > If I want to upgrade my Tomtom, what operating system do i need? My
> >> > computer is old and runs Win98se. Yes, the USB does work despite
> >> > being the slower USB 1.
> >>
> >>

> >

http://www.tomtom.com/services/servi...or=true#faq-27
> > 7
> >> says:
> >>
> >> For all TomTom GO, ONE, XL, and RIDER devices, the system requirements
> >> for

> > Windows are:
> >>
> >> Windows 2000, XP, Vista or Windows 7 (32-bit only, newest servicepacks

> > required,)
> >> Pentium III/equivalent or higher
> >> 256 MB RAM, 512 required
> >> Internet connection (Broadband - DSL/cable/LAN) for downloading

updates,
> > maps or services
> >> The TomTom HOME software is a 20MB download requiring 50MB of disk

space
> > when installed
> >>
> >> Tony

> >
> > Hi,
> > Although 2000 compatibility is written, this isn't true. TomTom Home

needs
> > Microsoft .net Framework 2.0 running over windows 2000 sp4
> > The Ver 2.7 and below (?? TBC) has a bug preventing to use the "device
> > handling" menu under all windows 2000 versions.
> >
> > It seems that some operations can't be performed from the device and

need
> > that menu option.
> >
> > Home is a PITA, 7 hrs @ 1MB/sec for me to get a map that exhibits errors
> > during installation. The CRC is OK but it doesn't want to install it

onto
> > the device. The warranty is about to expire and the old map is still
> > there.
> > TomTom hot line is slow and one question and one iteration needs 8 days.
> >
> > The device needs to be turned On during the whole map download duration.
> > The
> > current delivered by the USB port of a portable computer is too low to
> > ensure the charge (didn't try with a self powered hub yet). If the

battery
> > fails, the d/l aborts. Sometimes it needs to resume sometimes not.

Trashy
> > piece of software. Avoid it as far as possible.

>
> Or just avoid trying to upgrade without plugging the laptops power supply
> into the wall. You appear to have very unrealistic attitudes about the
> battery life of _any_ laptop when being used to power/charge another USB
> device.
>

My mobile disk (WD 320 GB 2.5") has two USB plugs because one USB port only
doesn't provide current enough.
Hooking it to the computer (ASUS M51A) with one plug only doesn't allow the
disk to be recognized.
Shall I add that the portable computer cord is plugged on both sides most of
the time and that the wall socket is not out of order ?
The Go950 when, upgrading it, has the screen light unnecessary at full
power.


 
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kraftee
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      07-11-2010, 07:49 PM


"frischmoutt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
> ka-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>> "frischmoutt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:4c38efa4$0$2948$(E-Mail Removed) r...
>> >
>> > "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
>> > news:
>> > (E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:04:56 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > If I want to upgrade my Tomtom, what operating system do i need? My
>> >> > computer is old and runs Win98se. Yes, the USB does work despite
>> >> > being the slower USB 1.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >

> http://www.tomtom.com/services/servi...or=true#faq-27
>> > 7
>> >> says:
>> >>
>> >> For all TomTom GO, ONE, XL, and RIDER devices, the system requirements
>> >> for
>> > Windows are:
>> >>
>> >> Windows 2000, XP, Vista or Windows 7 (32-bit only, newest servicepacks
>> > required,)
>> >> Pentium III/equivalent or higher
>> >> 256 MB RAM, 512 required
>> >> Internet connection (Broadband - DSL/cable/LAN) for downloading

> updates,
>> > maps or services
>> >> The TomTom HOME software is a 20MB download requiring 50MB of disk

> space
>> > when installed
>> >>
>> >> Tony
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > Although 2000 compatibility is written, this isn't true. TomTom Home

> needs
>> > Microsoft .net Framework 2.0 running over windows 2000 sp4
>> > The Ver 2.7 and below (?? TBC) has a bug preventing to use the "device
>> > handling" menu under all windows 2000 versions.
>> >
>> > It seems that some operations can't be performed from the device and

> need
>> > that menu option.
>> >
>> > Home is a PITA, 7 hrs @ 1MB/sec for me to get a map that exhibits
>> > errors
>> > during installation. The CRC is OK but it doesn't want to install it

> onto
>> > the device. The warranty is about to expire and the old map is still
>> > there.
>> > TomTom hot line is slow and one question and one iteration needs 8
>> > days.
>> >
>> > The device needs to be turned On during the whole map download
>> > duration.
>> > The
>> > current delivered by the USB port of a portable computer is too low to
>> > ensure the charge (didn't try with a self powered hub yet). If the

> battery
>> > fails, the d/l aborts. Sometimes it needs to resume sometimes not.

> Trashy
>> > piece of software. Avoid it as far as possible.

>>
>> Or just avoid trying to upgrade without plugging the laptops power supply
>> into the wall. You appear to have very unrealistic attitudes about the
>> battery life of _any_ laptop when being used to power/charge another USB
>> device.
>>

> My mobile disk (WD 320 GB 2.5") has two USB plugs because one USB port
> only
> doesn't provide current enough.


And what has that got to do with TomTom Go950? I have similar equipment this
end (DVD R/RW) doesn't get in the way of upgrading my TomTom

> Hooking it to the computer (ASUS M51A) with one plug only doesn't allow
> the
> disk to be recognized.


Again what has that to do with upgrading a TomTom Go 950? The TomTom only
uses one USB2 socket (quick check..........yes this is a thread about
TomTom, in a appropriate froup)

> Shall I add that the portable computer cord is plugged on both sides most
> of
> the time and that the wall socket is not out of order ?


> The Go950 when, upgrading it, has the screen light unnecessary at full
> power.


It's called letting you know that it's doing something. If you really
require everything to be connected at the same time you are updating your
TomTom, try using a powered hub, you know it makes sense (well everybody
else does).

You just want to bitch for bitchings' sake and so am a sad waste of bytes.
>
>

 
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      07-12-2010, 03:11 PM
>> My mobile disk (WD 320 GB 2.5") has two USB plugs because one USB port
>> only
>> doesn't provide current enough.

>
> And what has that got to do with TomTom Go950? I have similar equipment
> this end (DVD R/RW) doesn't get in the way of upgrading my TomTom
>
>> Hooking it to the computer (ASUS M51A) with one plug only doesn't allow
>> the
>> disk to be recognized.

>
> Again what has that to do with upgrading a TomTom Go 950? The TomTom only
> uses one USB2 socket (quick check..........yes this is a thread about
> TomTom, in a appropriate froup)
>


If the computer usb port is not supplying enough power to charge the
Tom-Tom, connecting it with a cable similar to the WD mobile disk will allow
the proper voltage and charge it. The two usb plugs attach to the pc's usb
ports, not the Tom-Tom.


 
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Gene E. Bloch
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      07-12-2010, 10:20 PM
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:11:00 -0500, DocGlock wrote:

>>> My mobile disk (WD 320 GB 2.5") has two USB plugs because one USB port
>>> only
>>> doesn't provide current enough.

>>
>> And what has that got to do with TomTom Go950? I have similar equipment
>> this end (DVD R/RW) doesn't get in the way of upgrading my TomTom
>>
>>> Hooking it to the computer (ASUS M51A) with one plug only doesn't allow
>>> the
>>> disk to be recognized.

>>
>> Again what has that to do with upgrading a TomTom Go 950? The TomTom only
>> uses one USB2 socket (quick check..........yes this is a thread about
>> TomTom, in a appropriate froup)
>>

>
> If the computer usb port is not supplying enough power to charge the
> Tom-Tom, connecting it with a cable similar to the WD mobile disk will allow
> the proper voltage and charge it. The two usb plugs attach to the pc's usb
> ports, not the Tom-Tom.


And just to make it explicit to those who haven't used such a cable: the
extra plug connects only to the power pins in the computer's second USB
port, not the data pins.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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frischmoutt
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      07-15-2010, 01:39 PM
> Again what has that to do with upgrading a TomTom Go 950? The TomTom only
> uses one USB2 socket (quick check..........yes this is a thread about
> TomTom, in a appropriate froup)
>


Replies to yoiur off topic remarks.

get a life
plonk

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