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Do cellphone GPS have more current maps than car GPS?

 
 
bob
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      07-17-2011, 04:51 PM
I have an address I could find on google map but not on my nuvi gps.
Can I assume the address can also be found with android based cellphone gps?

I would like to get a cellphone GPS but I heard GPS app uses up a lot of
data bandwidth. Is there a cellphone GPS that can download a map at home
via wifi, then navigate offline when in a car?
 
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Rod Speed
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      07-17-2011, 06:58 PM
Depends on the source of maps for the respective devices.

It can be the same or different and it isnt universally true that
one or other has more current maps except in the sense that
cellphone maps can be later versions just because they are
updated automatically whereas the car GPSs arent.

bob wrote:

> I have an address I could find on google map but not on my nuvi gps.


Thats not unusual given that google is usually more up to date than anything else.

Not always tho.

We have one street in our town that has an utterly bizarre numbering scheme
due to the history of that street and google is wronger than the tomtom gps.

> Can I assume the address can also be found with android based cellphone gps?


No you can not. It depends on the map source used.

> I would like to get a cellphone GPS but I heard GPS app uses up a lot
> of data bandwidth.


Yes, thats the main downside of that approach.

> Is there a cellphone GPS that can download a map
> at home via wifi, then navigate offline when in a car?


Yes.


 
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Hans-Georg Michna
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      07-28-2011, 03:04 PM
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:51:32 -0700, bob wrote:

>I have an address I could find on google map but not on my nuvi gps.
>Can I assume the address can also be found with android based cellphone gps?


Android phones primarily use Google Maps for navigation. There
are many other options, but Google Maps is free and always
available on all Android phones, so it is widely used.

>I would like to get a cellphone GPS but I heard GPS app uses up a lot of
>data bandwidth. Is there a cellphone GPS that can download a map at home
>via wifi, then navigate offline when in a car?


The GPS does not use a lot of bandwidth. Google now uses vector
maps, which are small.

Unless you drive all the time and always use the phone to
navigate, you will most likely not use more than 1 GB per month,
possibly less.

I don't understand why this should be a problem anyway, as you
would normally get something similar to a data flat rate for a
smartphone. The real problems are somewhere else, particularly
in areas without network coverage and in poor Google software
with bugs.

That said, you can buy several good offline navigators for
smartphones. They cost money to buy and again money to update
the maps. I doubt that this strategy makes sense, unless you
have convinced yourself that one of these programs is better for
your purposes and that you never need a data connection for your
smartphone, which I find unbelievable. A smartphone without an
Internet connection is like a runner without legs.

Hans-Georg
 
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Anthony Guzzi
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      08-03-2011, 11:13 PM
This assumes that you are in a place with 3G coverage. Where I live,
there are many areas with no coverage at all, so a cellphone GPS would
not be useful, but an offline car model would be useful.
 
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Hans-Georg Michna
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      08-05-2011, 03:12 PM
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:13:05 -0700, Anthony Guzzi wrote:

>This assumes that you are in a place with 3G coverage. Where I live,
>there are many areas with no coverage at all, so a cellphone GPS would
>not be useful, but an offline car model would be useful.


The smartphones still have something to offer.

Very recently Google added some offline capability to Google
Maps, a kind of user-controlled caching.

But apart from that, you can use Open Street Maps or a choice of
several other offline maps in a smartphone. There are several
good programs for these, some of them offering turn-by-turn
navigation.

You would save the extra weight and cost of a separate GPS
receiver by using the smartphone you already have (or will have
soon :-).

That said, you probably have to make a learned decision by
comparing the features of smartphones and dedicated GPS
receivers with your requirements.

The easiest way is to try out what your smartphone has to offer
and buy an additional GPS receiver if that is not enough.

Hans-Georg
 
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doug cutler
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      08-11-2011, 09:21 PM
On Aug 3, 7:13*pm, Anthony Guzzi <dukeof...@sonic.net> wrote:
> This assumes that you are in a place with 3G coverage. *Where I live,
> there are many areas with no coverage at all, so a cellphone GPS would
> not be useful, but an offline car model would be useful.


Many cell phones have AGPS so a cell signal is required just to get a
fix.
 
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Guess
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      08-12-2011, 07:36 AM

"doug cutler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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On Aug 3, 7:13 pm, Anthony Guzzi <dukeof...@sonic.net> wrote:
> This assumes that you are in a place with 3G coverage. Where I live,
> there are many areas with no coverage at all, so a cellphone GPS would
> not be useful, but an offline car model would be useful.


Many cell phones have AGPS so a cell signal is required just to get a
fix.

Rubbish,
AGPS is "ASSISTED GPS", it will still lock onto a GPS signal, but it MAY
take longer to acquire.

Iain.


 
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Rod Speed
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      08-12-2011, 05:46 PM
doug cutler wrote
> Anthony Guzzi <dukeof...@sonic.net> wrote


>> This assumes that you are in a place with 3G coverage. Where I live,
>> there are many areas with no coverage at all, so a cellphone GPS
>> would not be useful, but an offline car model would be useful.


> Many cell phones have AGPS


Yes.

> so a cell signal is required just to get a fix.


Nope, it just allows them to get a fix FASTER, it doesnt stop them
getting a fix when a cell service is not available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS


 
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Peter
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      08-13-2011, 07:23 AM
On 12/08/2011 18:46, Rod Speed wrote:
> doug cutler wrote
>> Anthony Guzzi<dukeof...@sonic.net> wrote

>
>>> This assumes that you are in a place with 3G coverage. Where I live,
>>> there are many areas with no coverage at all, so a cellphone GPS
>>> would not be useful, but an offline car model would be useful.

>
>> Many cell phones have AGPS

>
> Yes.
>
>> so a cell signal is required just to get a fix.

>
> Nope, it just allows them to get a fix FASTER, it doesnt stop them
> getting a fix when a cell service is not available.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
>
>

I'm running a Nokia X6, and while it can download all the maps via wifi
when at home, it always totally fails to get a fix if out of cell
coverage; Just when you really need it.
 
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Rod Speed
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      08-13-2011, 06:37 PM
Peter wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> doug cutler wrote
>>> Anthony Guzzi<dukeof...@sonic.net> wrote


>>>> This assumes that you are in a place with 3G coverage. Where I
>>>> live, there are many areas with no coverage at all, so a cellphone
>>>> GPS would not be useful, but an offline car model would be useful.


>>> Many cell phones have AGPS


>> Yes.


>>> so a cell signal is required just to get a fix.


>> Nope, it just allows them to get a fix FASTER, it doesnt stop them getting a fix when a cell service is not
>> available.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS


> I'm running a Nokia X6, and while it can download all the maps via wifi when at home, it always totally fails to get a
> fix if out of cell coverage; Just when you really need it.


Irrelevant to what AGPS is about.

You sure its not just taklng a long time when a cell service isnt available ?


 
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