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Davoud
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      06-17-2010, 12:18 AM
I just got an XXL 550 TM today.

Is it possible to enter a starting point and a destination and then
enter intermediate points, or use some other method, to force it to
accept the route via which I want to travel?

Hardly anything could be easier than moving a recommended route at
maps.google.com. However it is done, though, that is the objective--the
route that I believe to be best, which may not be the route the TomTom
chooses. Example: There are a couple of good ways to get to
Northeastern NJ from my home that do not involve Philadelphia, I-95,
the NJ Turnpike, et al--particularly on a beach weekend!

Is it possible to save a route (itinerary) for future use?

TIA for your patience.

Davoud

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Anthony R. Gold
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      06-17-2010, 07:05 AM
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:18:15 -0400, Davoud <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Is it possible to enter a starting point and a destination and then
> enter intermediate points, or use some other method, to force it to
> accept the route via which I want to travel?


Sure, you plan what TomTom call an Itinerary. Start it with just the start
and end points and then add as few waypoints as necessary to nudge the route
to follow your preferences. Note that when it comes to divided highways and
highway junctions TomTom is very literal, so you must zoom in to such
locations to ensure you place the waypoint in the right direction lane or
TomTom will obediently take you on a detour to pass through any points you
placed on the wrong sides of the highways. Each Itinerary is stored in its
individual file that can be named, saved, re-edited and re-used.

Tony
 
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Davoud
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      06-17-2010, 06:38 PM
Davoud:
> > Is it possible to enter a starting point and a destination and then
> > enter intermediate points, or use some other method, to force it to
> > accept the route via which I want to travel?


Anthony R. Gold:
> Sure, you plan what TomTom call an Itinerary. Start it with just the start
> and end points and then add as few waypoints as necessary to nudge the route
> to follow your preferences. Note that when it comes to divided highways and
> highway junctions TomTom is very literal, so you must zoom in to such
> locations to ensure you place the waypoint in the right direction lane or
> TomTom will obediently take you on a detour to pass through any points you
> placed on the wrong sides of the highways. Each Itinerary is stored in its
> individual file that can be named, saved, re-edited and re-used.


Thanks for taking time to reply. On the XXL 550, after the unit has
calculated the basic route one has the option to "Change Route." Upon
selecting Change Route there are just two relevant options: "Calculate
Alternative" and "Travel via...." The latter is the means of adding the
waypoint to which you refer. The problem is that my route requires two
waypoints, but after I enter the first waypoint I am unable to enter a
second; I am asked if I want to replace the first. If Yes, I have a new
route that I don't want; if No, I am back to my single waypoint.

In other words, I can't find a way to enter multiple waypoints. I'll go
back go Google. The XXL 550 is new, however, and there isn't much
available. I bought the 550 thinking it might be for advanced users;
perhaps I got the dummies model instead.

Thanks again,

Davoud

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TR Oltrogge
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      06-17-2010, 07:09 PM

"Davoud" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Davoud:
> Thanks for taking time to reply. On the XXL 550, after the unit has
> calculated the basic route one has the option to "Change Route." Upon
> selecting Change Route there are just two relevant options: "Calculate
> Alternative" and "Travel via...." The latter is the means of adding the
> waypoint to which you refer. The problem is that my route requires two
> waypoints, but after I enter the first waypoint I am unable to enter a
> second; I am asked if I want to replace the first. If Yes, I have a new
> route that I don't want; if No, I am back to my single waypoint.
>
> In other words, I can't find a way to enter multiple waypoints. I'll go
> back go Google. The XXL 550 is new, however, and there isn't much
> available. I bought the 550 thinking it might be for advanced users;
> perhaps I got the dummies model instead.
>

My XL340S also frustrated me in that I couldn't add more than a single
waypoint.

I quickly discovered the only sensible way to plan trips on the machine was
to create an Itinerary.
But before building the itinerary I store every waypoint as a Favorite so I
can select it with ease.
Also, the machine stores all Favorites and Itineraries in its memory so you
never lose your work if it encounters a software bug.
Itineraries built on Favorites and stored so you can recall them is the only
way to go, IMHO.
I know it's weird to think of a casual waypoint as a Favorite, but it works!

Tim


 
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Anthony R. Gold
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      06-17-2010, 08:51 PM
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:38:32 -0400, Davoud <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Davoud:
>>> Is it possible to enter a starting point and a destination and then
>>> enter intermediate points, or use some other method, to force it to
>>> accept the route via which I want to travel?

>
> Anthony R. Gold:
>> Sure, you plan what TomTom call an Itinerary. Start it with just the start
>> and end points and then add as few waypoints as necessary to nudge the route
>> to follow your preferences. Note that when it comes to divided highways and
>> highway junctions TomTom is very literal, so you must zoom in to such
>> locations to ensure you place the waypoint in the right direction lane or
>> TomTom will obediently take you on a detour to pass through any points you
>> placed on the wrong sides of the highways. Each Itinerary is stored in its
>> individual file that can be named, saved, re-edited and re-used.

>
> Thanks for taking time to reply. On the XXL 550, after the unit has
> calculated the basic route one has the option to "Change Route."


You need to study Itinerary Planning:

http://download.tomtom.com/open/manu...XLv2-en-GB.pdf

see Chapter 14, page 42. After studying that, re-read my earlier post.

Tony
 
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Rod Speed
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      06-17-2010, 10:24 PM
Davoud wrote:

> I just got an XXL 550 TM today.


> Is it possible to enter a starting point and a destination and
> then enter intermediate points, or use some other method,
> to force it to accept the route via which I want to travel?


Yes, tomtoms call that an itinerary.

> Hardly anything could be easier than moving a recommended route at maps.google.com.


There are some tools that will allow you to convert a maps.google route to the tomtom.

> However it is done, though, that is the objective--the route that
> I believe to be best, which may not be the route the TomTom
> chooses. Example: There are a couple of good ways to get to
> Northeastern NJ from my home that do not involve Philadelphia,
> I-95, the NJ Turnpike, et al--particularly on a beach weekend!


> Is it possible to save a route (itinerary) for future use?


Yes, its in the options for the itinerary.


 
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Davoud
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      06-18-2010, 03:18 AM
Davoud:
> >>> Is it possible to enter a starting point and a destination and then
> >>> enter intermediate points, or use some other method, to force it to
> >>> accept the route via which I want to travel?



Anthony R. Gold:
> You need to study Itinerary Planning:
>
>
> http://download.tomtom.com/open/manu...-XLv2-en-GB.pd
> f
>
> see Chapter 14, page 42. After studying that, re-read my earlier post.


I'm sorry if I failed to provide adequate information. I had already
read that before starting the post. The problem is that those
directions with

1. Tap the screen to bring up the Main Menu.

2. Tap Itinerary Planning.

Then it goes on to such things as "Mark as waypoint."

But my XXL 550 main screen has two options: "Plan Route" and "Browse
Map." Nowhere can I find an option for Itinerary Planning or marking a
WayPoint. I created an itinerary (.itn file) using Google Maps and
<http://houghi.org/tomtom/index.php>, and I put in in the itn
directory. The files appears under "Items on device" under "Manage my
XXL" in TomTom Home, but the device's menus offer no way (that I can
find) of loading an itinerary. The manual contains almost nothing, and
there is no on-line manual for the XXL 550.

Thanks again,

Davoud

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      06-18-2010, 03:26 AM
Rod Speed ]:

> Davoud:
> > I just got an XXL 550 TM today.
> > Is it possible to enter a starting point and a destination and
> > then enter intermediate points, or use some other method,
> > to force it to accept the route via which I want to travel?

>
> Yes, tomtoms call that an itinerary.
>
> > Hardly anything could be easier than moving a recommended route at
> > maps.google.com.

>
> There are some tools that will allow you to convert a maps.google route to
> the tomtom.


Hello, and thanks for replying. Please see my recent reply to Mr. Gold.
Been there, done that; got the .itn file into my TomTom. No apparent
way in the menus to call it up, however.

>
> > However it is done, though, that is the objective--the route that
> > I believe to be best, which may not be the route the TomTom
> > chooses. Example: There are a couple of good ways to get to
> > Northeastern NJ from my home that do not involve Philadelphia,
> > I-95, the NJ Turnpike, et al--particularly on a beach weekend!

>
> > Is it possible to save a route (itinerary) for future use?

>
> Yes, its in the options for the itinerary.


Ditto. No "itinerary" menu that I can find on my TomTom.

Davoud

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      06-18-2010, 07:03 AM
In article <170620102326542901%(E-Mail Removed)>, Davoud <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Ditto. No "itinerary" menu that I can find on my TomTom.


Im ONE 130-S has no Itinerary menu item either. Apparently, this
excellent feature is not built into all Tomtom navigators.
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      06-18-2010, 07:34 AM
Davoud wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Davoud wrote


>>> I just got an XXL 550 TM today.


>>> Is it possible to enter a starting point and a destination and
>>> then enter intermediate points, or use some other method,
>>> to force it to accept the route via which I want to travel?


>> Yes, tomtoms call that an itinerary.


>>> Hardly anything could be easier than moving
>>> a recommended route at maps.google.com.


>> There are some tools that will allow you to convert a maps.google route to the tomtom.


> Hello, and thanks for replying. Please see my recent reply to Mr.
> Gold. Been there, done that; got the .itn file into my TomTom.
> No apparent way in the menus to call it up, however.


If your tomtom doesnt support itinerarys, and it looks
like it doesnt if it doesnt appear in the menus, there is
no way to get it to use a maps.google itinerary.

And with a tomtom that does support itinerarys, you need
to convert the maps.google itinerary into the format that
tomtoms use before its available for the tomtom to use.

I'd return the tomtom and get one that does have itinerarys.

>>> However it is done, though, that is the objective--the route that
>>> I believe to be best, which may not be the route the TomTom
>>> chooses. Example: There are a couple of good ways to get to
>>> Northeastern NJ from my home that do not involve Philadelphia,
>>> I-95, the NJ Turnpike, et al--particularly on a beach weekend!


>>> Is it possible to save a route (itinerary) for future use?


>> Yes, its in the options for the itinerary.


> Ditto. No "itinerary" menu that I can find on my TomTom.


Then I'd return the tomtom and get one that does have itinerarys.


 
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