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markwalter@no-spam.com
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      04-22-2010, 06:25 PM
I decided to play around with my TomTom again. Changing it to
"fastest route" instead of "shortest route", did help eliminate it
from telling me to take every country back gravel road and/or minor
city street. However, it did not completely eliminate the problem,
just minimized it.

But here's a new quirk.
I went to a big city last week. I'm travelling down a major freeway,
and I accidentally hit something on the TomTom making it think I
wanted to go back home. (Ok, that was probably my fault). But here's
what really annoyed me. The TomTom kept telling me to make a U-Turn
on those "U-turn" things between the East and West lanes, which are
clearly marked "NO U TURN". I dont know if these are the same all
over the country, but in the state where I was, those things are only
there to be used by emergency vehicles (police, fire, ambulance, etc).
If I was to use one of them, I'd be pulled over by the police and get
ticketed. Yet, the TomTom clearly showed each one of them in a
visual, as well as saying "turn left after 500 yards", and when I was
right at the spot, it would say "make a u-turn now".

I wonder how many people actually follow those illegal instructions
and get ticketed?????

Mark
 
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Anthony R. Gold
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      04-22-2010, 07:22 PM
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:25:15 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> I decided to play around with my TomTom again. Changing it to
> "fastest route" instead of "shortest route", did help eliminate it
> from telling me to take every country back gravel road and/or minor
> city street. However, it did not completely eliminate the problem,
> just minimized it.
>
> But here's a new quirk.
> I went to a big city last week. I'm travelling down a major freeway,
> and I accidentally hit something on the TomTom making it think I
> wanted to go back home. (Ok, that was probably my fault). But here's
> what really annoyed me. The TomTom kept telling me to make a U-Turn
> on those "U-turn" things between the East and West lanes, which are
> clearly marked "NO U TURN". I dont know if these are the same all
> over the country, but in the state where I was, those things are only
> there to be used by emergency vehicles (police, fire, ambulance, etc).
> If I was to use one of them, I'd be pulled over by the police and get
> ticketed. Yet, the TomTom clearly showed each one of them in a
> visual, as well as saying "turn left after 500 yards", and when I was
> right at the spot, it would say "make a u-turn now".
>
> I wonder how many people actually follow those illegal instructions
> and get ticketed?????


I've been using TomToms since their first PND six years ago and none has
ever said make a "U-Turn" at any point in any journey, so I find your story
hard to accept. Does anyone else claim to have used some model or version
of TomTom that ever issues "U-Turn" instructions?

Tony
 
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petetop
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      04-22-2010, 07:39 PM

"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:25:15 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>> I decided to play around with my TomTom again. Changing it to
>> "fastest route" instead of "shortest route", did help eliminate it
>> from telling me to take every country back gravel road and/or minor
>> city street. However, it did not completely eliminate the problem,
>> just minimized it.
>>
>> But here's a new quirk.
>> I went to a big city last week. I'm travelling down a major freeway,
>> and I accidentally hit something on the TomTom making it think I
>> wanted to go back home. (Ok, that was probably my fault). But here's
>> what really annoyed me. The TomTom kept telling me to make a U-Turn
>> on those "U-turn" things between the East and West lanes, which are
>> clearly marked "NO U TURN". I dont know if these are the same all
>> over the country, but in the state where I was, those things are only
>> there to be used by emergency vehicles (police, fire, ambulance, etc).
>> If I was to use one of them, I'd be pulled over by the police and get
>> ticketed. Yet, the TomTom clearly showed each one of them in a
>> visual, as well as saying "turn left after 500 yards", and when I was
>> right at the spot, it would say "make a u-turn now".
>>
>> I wonder how many people actually follow those illegal instructions
>> and get ticketed?????

>
> I've been using TomToms since their first PND six years ago and none has
> ever said make a "U-Turn" at any point in any journey, so I find your
> story
> hard to accept. Does anyone else claim to have used some model or version
> of TomTom that ever issues "U-Turn" instructions?
>
> Tony


Yeah
I use a tomtom one xl and if I ignore a command to turn off the road it
will sometimes say " do a u turn now " or "turn around when possible"
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Marvin Hlavac
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      04-22-2010, 08:15 PM
>I decided to play around with my TomTom again. Changing it to
> "fastest route" instead of "shortest route", did help eliminate it
> from telling me to take every country back gravel road and/or minor
> city street.


It was a user error to use the "Shortest" instead of the "Fastest" setting.
The device did what you asked it to do: It provided you with the route of
the shortest possible distance from A to B. That often means avoiding
highways, and travelling via much less suitable roads. TomTom is not to
blame for calculating the type of routes you programmed the device to
calculate.

> But here's a new quirk.
> I went to a big city last week. I'm travelling down a major freeway,
> and I accidentally hit something on the TomTom


Re-read the TomTom's user manual, and/or TomTom's safety warnings, and/or
ask a driver's instructor, and/or a police office to find out what you've
done wrong. Do not program your GPS navigation device while "travelling down
a major freeway".

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Anthony R. Gold
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      04-22-2010, 08:37 PM
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:39:53 +0100, "petetop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I use a tomtom one xl and if I ignore a command to turn off the road it
> will sometimes say " do a u turn now " or "turn around when possible"


It says both of them at different time or one but you don't remember which?

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Rod Speed
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      04-22-2010, 09:48 PM
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> I decided to play around with my TomTom again. Changing it to
> "fastest route" instead of "shortest route", did help eliminate it
> from telling me to take every country back gravel road and/or minor
> city street. However, it did not completely eliminate the problem,
> just minimized it.


> But here's a new quirk.
> I went to a big city last week. I'm travelling down a major freeway,
> and I accidentally hit something on the TomTom making it think I
> wanted to go back home. (Ok, that was probably my fault). But here's
> what really annoyed me. The TomTom kept telling me to make a U-Turn
> on those "U-turn" things between the East and West lanes, which are
> clearly marked "NO U TURN".


You're lying now. TomToms say turn around WHEN POSSIBLE.

So it clearly was NOT telling you to do a U turn there.

> I dont know if these are the same all over the country, but
> in the state where I was, those things are only there to be
> used by emergency vehicles (police, fire, ambulance, etc).


And the tomtom was NOT telling you to use any of them.

> If I was to use one of them, I'd be pulled over by the police and get ticketed.


Only if there was a cop around.

> Yet, the TomTom clearly showed each one of them in a visual,
> as well as saying "turn left after 500 yards", and when I was
> right at the spot, it would say "make a u-turn now".


The most you can claim is that it doesnt allow for the unusual regulation in YOUR STATE.

> I wonder how many people actually follow those illegal instructions and get ticketed?????


**** all.


 
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John Tserkezis
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      04-22-2010, 10:36 PM
Rod Speed wrote:

>> I went to a big city last week. I'm travelling down a major freeway,
>> and I accidentally hit something on the TomTom making it think I
>> wanted to go back home. (Ok, that was probably my fault). But here's
>> what really annoyed me. The TomTom kept telling me to make a U-Turn
>> on those "U-turn" things between the East and West lanes, which are
>> clearly marked "NO U TURN".


> You're lying now. TomToms say turn around WHEN POSSIBLE.
> So it clearly was NOT telling you to do a U turn there.


Sigh. Rod, you know me. I'm as a bit a pedantic old far as you are.
This is a case of suggesting, verses telling. Akin to *suggesting*
someone jump off the edge of a cliff, verses *telling* someone to jump
off a cliff.

Absolutely no difference other than legal ramifications to whoever is
making the suggesting or telling (whatever the case may me).

You call it what you want, TomTom at the very least, is drawing a
****ing new route over a path that is illegal to use at that area. This
is an easy fix. Just take out those turns for the applicable
state/territory. But still too hard for TomTom.

>> If I was to use one of them, I'd be pulled over by the police and get ticketed.


> Only if there was a cop around.


So now you're sprouting legal advice, that one cannot be fined for
performing an illegal action if there is no-one to see it?

> The most you can claim is that it doesnt allow for the unusual regulation in YOUR STATE.


Because they're too ****ing lazy to take those out for the states where
those turns are outright illegal.

>> I wonder how many people actually follow those illegal instructions and get ticketed?????


> **** all.


Every single one of them. Unless it's a "special" case, (such as the
recent Sydney F3 freeway crash where police were actively stopping
people from leaving the parking lot on their side, to do a U-Turn. The
reportedly didn't get booked, but just sent back to their parking lot.

Or in those cases where the cops didn't see it. In that case you claim
that's allright.
 
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Rod Speed
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      04-22-2010, 11:50 PM
John Tserkezis wrote
> Rod Speed wrote


>>> I went to a big city last week. I'm travelling down a major freeway,
>>> and I accidentally hit something on the TomTom making it think I
>>> wanted to go back home. (Ok, that was probably my fault). But here's
>>> what really annoyed me. The TomTom kept telling me to make a U-Turn
>>> on those "U-turn" things between the East and West lanes, which are
>>> clearly marked "NO U TURN".


>> You're lying now. TomToms say turn around WHEN POSSIBLE.
>> So it clearly was NOT telling you to do a U turn there.


> Sigh.


Heavy breathing wont save your bacon, boy.

> Rod, you know me.


Yeah, and I know why they keep frog marching you off to the loony bin too.

> I'm as a bit a pedantic old far as you are.
> This is a case of suggesting, verses telling.


Nope, I was talking about the U turn bit. Turning around isnt necessarily a U turn.

> Akin to *suggesting* someone jump off the edge of
> a cliff, verses *telling* someone to jump off a cliff.


Wrong, as always.

> Absolutely no difference other than legal ramifications to whoever
> is making the suggesting or telling (whatever the case may me).


Wrong, as always.

> You call it what you want, TomTom at the very least, is drawing
> a ****ing new route over a path that is illegal to use at that area.


And its only in that particular state anyone cant use those U turn things provided.

> This is an easy fix. Just take out those turns for the applicable state/territory.


It isnt even clear if he's right that he isnt allowed to use them.

Or even whether he's just another lying troll.

> But still too hard for TomTom.


Wouldnt be the first time some very unusual detail in a
particular state didnt show up on a country wide map, fool.

>>> If I was to use one of them, I'd be pulled over by the police and get ticketed.


>> Only if there was a cop around.


> So now you're sprouting legal advice,


Wrong, as always.

And its spouting anyway, its only potatoes and seeds etc that sprout, stupid.

> that one cannot be fined for performing an
> illegal action if there is no-one to see it?


Tad unlikely they have cameras there to catch anyone using them, stupid.

>> The most you can claim is that it doesnt allow
>> for the unusual regulation in YOUR STATE.


> Because they're too ****ing lazy to take those out
> for the states where those turns are outright illegal.


You dont know that there are any states like that.

>>> I wonder how many people actually follow those illegal instructions and get ticketed?????


>> **** all.


> Every single one of them. Unless it's a "special" case, (such as the
> recent Sydney F3 freeway crash where police were actively stopping
> people from leaving the parking lot on their side, to do a U-Turn.
> The reportedly didn't get booked, but just sent back to their parking lot.


> Or in those cases where the cops didn't see it. In that case you claim that's allright.


No wonder they keep frog marching you off to the loony bin.


 
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      04-23-2010, 03:21 AM

"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:25:15 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> hard to accept. Does anyone else claim to have used some model or version
> of TomTom that ever issues "U-Turn" instructions?
>
> Tony



Yes all the time if I'm going in the wrong direction, and it wants me to
turn around ASAP. But as with anything in life, you exercise a little common
sense.
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Roger Mills
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      04-23-2010, 10:04 AM
In an earlier contribution to this discussion, (E-Mail Removed)
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I decided to play around with my TomTom again. Changing it to
> "fastest route" instead of "shortest route", did help eliminate it
> from telling me to take every country back gravel road and/or minor
> city street. However, it did not completely eliminate the problem,
> just minimized it.
>
> But here's a new quirk.
> I went to a big city last week. I'm travelling down a major freeway,
> and I accidentally hit something on the TomTom making it think I
> wanted to go back home. (Ok, that was probably my fault).


Too right, it was! In order to get that result, you would need to do the
following:
* Tap the screen to bring up the menu
* Tap "cancel route"
* Tap "Yes" to confirm
* Tap the screen again to get the menu back
* Tap "navigate to"
* Tap "Home" - followed by a few "ok"s

And you did all *that* while driving along a freeway?! You should be banned
from driving with immediate effect!

But here's
> what really annoyed me. The TomTom kept telling me to make a U-Turn
> on those "U-turn" things between the East and West lanes, which are
> clearly marked "NO U TURN". I dont know if these are the same all
> over the country, but in the state where I was, those things are only
> there to be used by emergency vehicles (police, fire, ambulance, etc).
> If I was to use one of them, I'd be pulled over by the police and get
> ticketed. Yet, the TomTom clearly showed each one of them in a
> visual, as well as saying "turn left after 500 yards", and when I was
> right at the spot, it would say "make a u-turn now".
>


My TomTom (in the UK) usually says "turn around when possible" - but does
sometimes say "make a U-turn", but only when it's legal to do so.

You seen to be losing sight of the fact that these things are a navigational
*aid* - not something to be blindly obeyed under all circumstances. Just
because you're using one, it doesn't mean that you can throw common sense
out of the window. In the UK, a number of stupid people have driven along
railway lines at level crossings, and have blamed their GPS for telling them
to do it. *They* shouldn't be on the road any more than *you* should!
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